Board of Trustees Work Session

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Alright. Good evening and welcome to our April 16 work session. We'll begin by reviewing the capital plan and the first department will be the Department of Public Works. Superintendent Balbi, would you like to join us?

Good evening everybody.

Okay. I

think we'll we'll probably we'll start just on the top of the rattledown. Yeah. We'll start with infrastructure and just make our way down the down the list.

K. The first section we're going through is the general general road repairs and curbs. So there's $910,000 that we're asking here. Typically, every year, we get it's a little different every year, but approximately $500,000 in chips. That's New York State funding for road resurfacing, and that's usually our resurfacing money. This year, we did request more so that we can do a little bit more roadways and sort of catch up to our resurfacing program. Mhmm. We don't have an official paving list yet. We actually usually wait till after the winter because there are a lot of times roadways that, especially after winter, we just had that'll just heave and thaw, and it'll it'll break apart. Whereas they looked okay in the fall, now they're they're they sort of jump up to the list because they just they took a beating in the winter. So we'll be developing that, soon. Once we get the chips money, the chips, the letter informing us what our chip funding is for this year, then we can form sort of a more definite list, because we'll know our parameters, what we can be working with.

Just a question about, so these are only on village roads, so for example, if we didn't get any chips money for Route 129, which is a New York that's a state road. Yeah. It's owned and maintained by New York City. Can't pave a pothole on that or

Yeah. 129, unfortunately, we we we don't do any maintenance on. Right. We make many many requests throughout the year to the state, and they do come in and and and sort of, you know, do something, but I agree. It's in need of a total replacement. Yeah. We have many requests into them because that and it affects the plowing too. Right? Because that it it's just you can't plow it anymore. I think Scott could attest to that.

Yeah. Wrote them a letter this winter. I wrote them an email, and Thank you. I got zero response. You know, I just said it's becoming there's becoming a level of danger now because the plows the way that they shim the roadway, the plows don't scrape as clean as they would on, you know, any other roadway. So Yeah. It becomes a little bit of a safety factor. And I wrote him a nice, CC'd everybody on it. Right. Which is I know Pete Harkom just

gave $14,000,000 from, you know, for various priority projects, but Route 2129 wasn't one of them. So I'm I mean, I know there are a lot of other I've been on those other roads and they're terrible. I'm I'm, you know yeah. I I know, you know Region I believe Region 8 has the worst roads in the whole state, so there's a lot of roads that need

Region sorry. Region 8 is the whole Mid Hudson Valley area right under the DOT. And so I think that the roads in our region have been rated the worst out of the whole state. So there's a lot of

So I guess that list the list that came out this week of the there were three, I guess, that were being targeted. I assume those were worse than

That I would guess so. Right? That's that would be I imagine that's why they were selected.

Mhmm. So But legally, we're not allowed to pay? Like, if there's something

I I mean, it it it's just that it's not the village's responsibility. Right? We don't own the roads. There's no guarantee that we would get reimbursed for any work. Like, we have a we have an agreement with state to plow the snow and then they reimburse us. Right? We don't have any sort of maintenance agreement. We've gone so far as to tell the state we will use our paving contractor to have the road paved and they can reimburse us. Right. Which is great. Yeah. But they have said no.

So They said no. Yeah. They responded.

Alright. Okay. They responded to that Yes.

How long have we got a response to? Yeah. Thank you. Yep.

And I'll I'll just add on to what the superintendent said. The extra $400,000 here was an indirect response to the results of the budget survey. Right? Where we were we were informed, right, through the survey that the residents want to see more spending on infrastructure and improving our roadways. And so, you know, that's why we added the additional funding to this this category. Right. Yep.

Well, and it's also good. That's what we have. I think encouraging. We were talking about this a little bit last night, but to to see just, such a high percentage, of this portion of the budget being, paid for through grants lending. Mhmm. Yep.

K. The next item is the Farrington Road Steps. So if you remember last year, we did request to receive funding for the Farrington Road Steps. We had civil engineer design the repairs, bring it up to, you know, current standards, went out to bid. We had a $150,000. I believe all the bids came in. It was around $400,000. So, of course, we couldn't couldn't do that project. So we're asking for the 250,000 that we're asking for this year is to hopefully go out to bid go back out to bid and and be able to complete that project.

So is it so the total cost is the $1.50 that was budgeted last year plus the $2.50 that was budgeted this year, or you're trying to get thinking that you're gonna get a lower contract this year? We didn't we didn't actually we didn't do the bond last year. Right? So we had budgeted we had in the capital plan that was adopted last year, we had put $1.50 in, but the bids came back So in yeah. They came back in early June, and they were so high Yeah. That we didn't actually go out to bond for that. So what if we go out, $2.56 is gonna be enough? I what would stop us? I mean, we we spoke we have a masonry I don't know if Scott Marsh or general foreman wants to touch on this. We have a a mason that we've worked with. So we we have a mason we work with. So we're trying to do a

a joint venture. And and maybe we can bid stuff and and get or we can get this thing to come in at a reasonable number. Okay. The numbers were astronomical. I mean, they weren't even

When you say joint venture, you mean some of the work will be done in house and then the masonry will be done by this other organization?

We're gonna take on it was a little astonishing for even myself when I saw the numbers come in on the project. So we had to kinda put our heads together and come up with a different plan because Yeah. That was not It is I mean,

it is a little bit of a unique project because the way the staircase is and you we're gonna have to get onto a private prop the neighbor's private property to do some of the work. And so it's but it's not insurmountable

and, like, you know, the numb like, it was just said the numbers that came in were Yeah. A little.

But we're also gonna try to give give that same deadline. Right? Last year, we gave a deadline of Labor Day. We bid it in June. Yeah. We're gonna do the same thing this year. So that deadline is probably 70% of the reason the cost was that high today. As high as they were. So Yeah. We may have to get a little creative with that. The goal is to to try to hammer this thing out in the summer months.

Know, I'm gonna give you the jump. Steps to go to school. Yeah. That's why I assume that's what the deadline was. But they didn't what's the deterioration been like? Because when this first came up, I was so upset that we weren't doing it right away because I and then I

I walked on the you know, I went that way, which I hadn't in a while. And they weren't like, it wasn't as bad as I had imagined it would be. What's the deterioration over the last year been? You know, they're they're probably, you know, the same. You know, they'll they'll just they're they hit their point and they got bad and that's where they're kinda hanging out right now. It's not it's not they're not It's not an emergency. Like, they're still dealing with great. You know, they're it doesn't meet any requirements in there and it's, you know, it's it's not a good

situation. They could be. I mean, there's there's steps that are cracked and the railing is not I mean, they're they need to they're over a 100 years old. Right? I mean, they need to be I don't know how old they are, but yeah. Well, we we bought them in 1930. Right? And so they were already there before then. So some cracked, some crumbling. But, you know Yeah. If you're careful, you can you can use them. Yeah. They're not they're not to the point where they need to be closed. Right? They're not that dangerous. But, you know, they they could present

some issues. Yeah. Yeah.

Next item, sidewalks for municipal place in South Riverside. So I think you guys are familiar with this. This would be to sort of complete that sidewalk. What? Yep. The link, the two sidewalks there down municipal place and hook it up to the sidewalk or or hook it up to a new sidewalk in front of, like, where the mobile is on South Riverside there. Yeah. So this is thrilling.

We're very excited about this. I mean, is, like, you know, with the county's support, we're able to do this project. This has been on the list for a long time, so we're just thrilled that it's gonna happen.

It's gonna create some challenges too over there. You got Croton. Yeah. The Dodge the slope on Croton Dodge is gonna be the challenge. You know, not so much in front of the commons and mobiles. It gets a little bit tricky. Frank and I had walked it and and but the Croton Dodge side is gonna be, you know, interesting.

I guess about half of the money at least coming from the county. When when do when what's realistic in terms of timing for for this?

It's really gonna depend. I mean, we haven't gotten the official That's what I was thinking. Yeah. We haven't gotten the I mean, we haven't gotten anything official yet. Yep. So depending on how long that takes, then there's gonna be a design period, right, where the work has to be, you know, and then it's gonna have to be bid. Yeah. And then, I mean, you're you're not maybe this time next year Right. You know, we could have it being worked on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That would be good. Yeah. Oh, I agree. Yeah. That would be great. I mean, compared to what what it what else it could be. Yeah. You know?

Alright. Next is the cross sitting viewing platform. So last year, we got funding to do the the railing along that walkway between Ossing and and Croton there along 9. We got to the platform there, and we just weren't gonna have enough funding to do the platform and the rest of the railings. The railings are done. Yeah. Came out great. But then, as you know, when you do something,

now that those look great, you look at the the platform, you're like, well, this needs a little love too. It's it's such a great place Yeah. When you if you're biking there and you just stop and, you know, get off and just kind of look around for a little bit. It's amazing. It's a wonderful view. So that'll so, basically, redo it pretty much the way it is, you know, but just Yeah. Exactly. Just like we did with the the right the remaining the rail work and and and hopefully, sign I think some of the signage, of course, you know, needs to be updated.

The next one is for the Streetlight Globe replacements in in Harmon. Mhmm. So that's what the $15,000 request is for. So this did go to the VEB. The VEB did recommend a a softer light instead of the 3,000 going down to 2,700 k Mhmm. Which is which is doable. But then, you know, the rest of the decorative lighting in the business district districts won't be won't match. Right? So we got some pricing today, actually, that for an additional 3,000 to change out the bulbs in the in the remainder of the business districts with the with the softer light so that they all at least match. They're we have they're about $60 each. This is we have about 50 of them. That's with having a couple on the shelf in case something happens to them. So, actually, the request would be for an additional $3,000

to So this number would go so this would go from 15 yeah. To 18,000. Yeah. Is that what we just talked about at the VB meeting this week? We didn't We talked about to the light bulb. Yeah. We talked about yeah. We talked about the the color of the of the street. Right. Right. Yeah. And then Matt Berger, the chair of the VEB, emailed me yesterday and said that he was talking to another member of the VEB, Jan Johnson, right, who wasn't able to attend the call. Right. Right. And, you know, Matt said that she's an outdoor lighting expert and said that she kindly suggested 2,700 is that what you say? 2,700 LED lights, which are a warmer color for street lights, not 30 not 3,000 as it's too harsh.

Okay. I I was just wondering because we just had this conversation Yes. Two days ago. So I was wondering where that info came from. I guess $3,000 one way or the other doesn't really matter, but I didn't understand how we got there. Yeah. I just we just got this information. Okay. Yeah. My fault. It was a follow-up to that. Yeah. So

so, yes, the the coal the poll colors were approved. Yeah. Then just sort of as a follow-up kind the glass bulb

Right. As well. The globes. Yeah. The globes are gonna be Globes. Match the ones on, North Riverside. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Beautiful. The ones in the Upper Village are a little different.

Yeah. I guess I'm gonna come back closely. There was a lot of discussion around why they were green. We haven't found we haven't been able to find anything wanting to change them from green if people felt strongly that That was me. What do you mean? You were No. But but I you know, we take a lot of pride, and we roll around the village and make it what it can, and we drive up there, and they got these green lights and everything else is black, and they look like nice. So I'm like, let's change these lights to black. And right. And that was I mean, that was everyone sort of agreed, but then we were like, wait. Are these green for a reason? And are people gonna sale. Are people gonna be okay. I just didn't wanna you know, if there was some historical reason for it and we were making them black, and then people were gonna be like, oh my god. I love the green ones. Well, yeah. Then we I we talked about the BEV the clock conversation last year. The black that was the original pitch was that for GreenClock That was black. That was performing. So Luckily. Fortunately

Anyway black would be probably the best for us. We just didn't wanna offend anybody.

They're gonna look amazing. Didn't want to. Right. They'll look good when they're done. Okay. Yeah. I'm sure.

Okay. Next section is traffic improvements. So the first, item there is improvements to Old Post Road North. So that is part of the traffic study that we did recently on the at the intersections of Michaels Old Post Road North and Michaels, and also High Street. So just they came up with sort of a layout to to make some some improvements there for pedestrian safety as well as vehicular safety. So this would be this request is to perform that work.

Can I ask a question about that? The new crossing that's near I guess it's Wood Street or Gerstein, one of those streets. So when you come up to that stoplight, it, like I think it isn't flashing until you come No. It'll it flashes when it's activated. Right? So so when someone pushes the button, it activates? Yeah. So is that the same one? Because I know we were talking about flashing lights there. Yeah. That would be the same thing. Because, obviously, the people who live there were like, I don't the people who live there were like, well, I don't want flashing lights all the time. Like, my window looks right after that. Yeah. So I was curious if that was it's not that's what it is. It's always trying to cross. They'll hit that just to tell vehicles, hey. I'm crossing. Okay. And it stays. It's for, like, what, twenty, thirty seconds? I forget what the timing is. It's not very long. Yeah. We could set it. Long enough for somebody to cross the street. Right? Mean How can you do it? Yeah. And so this would then come back to because there were people when I was on the I think it was on a work session agenda at some point. So people came out to talk about it. The neighbors came out to talk about it, so they weren't able to talk about it because it was a work session. But that would be something else, like the design that will be discussed, and there will be an opportunity to weigh in by the neighbors. It would be this is this is scheduled to be a bond resolution. So it would be on an agenda to approve the bond resolution.

I don't know if we've discussed if that would be is that planning to be done in house or are we looking to bid that out? Think we're do it. No. I think we're we're hoping to do that. We're gonna In house. Yeah. Okay. To keep that close. I mean, they're they're really it would you know, we could have it could be on the agenda for the bond resolution.

Or before the bond resolution. Right? So we can Yeah. But I mean, when the plan is ready, is there is that gonna be on an is that is will there be an opportunity for people to weigh in to say If this plan is If wants the it, we can we can do that. Right? I mean, that's

I mean, we had the work session. Right? We sent letters to everybody.

But there wasn't nobody was able to

there was no conversation that was able to be had about No. I understand that. But they were all the all the neighbors were encouraged to share their comments.

Right? Both in the letter and at the meeting. We told the people who were here to please write us with your comments, and nobody did. Okay. So I guess what I'm saying is I would like this to be something that is somehow appears on an agenda so that if people wanna weigh in on what the proposed design is, there's opportunity to do that. I mean, I would even propose that we do something like we've done now with Kaplan's and in in a That's neighbor information session that's less formal than a meeting

where you can go over the plan, walk everyone through. They can ask questions.

I mean, I feel like that that sort of community engagement is just seems like it's We can do we can do what we've done, like, with Guevara. I have, like, a Zoom. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That would be or, like, the bridge to Half Moon Bay, something like that. I just I know that people Yeah. I I are interested in that. I know I I know they're in I I know they're interested, but, I mean, we have given people a chance to share their thoughts, and they they have it. So

Well, I mean, I got the letter in the mail, and I didn't open it until way after because it just looked like it didn't look No. I know. But even if you opened it, right, I mean, you could have shared your thoughts afterwards. So I'm sharing my thoughts now. I would like neighbors to be able to weigh in. Yeah. Thank you. That's fine. Yeah.

Okay. The next item is rapid the rapid flashing beacons on Maple. So crossing Maple by the Maple Commons there, the new development. Same setup as as we have on Gerstein and also on the crosswalk there, the mid block crossing behind the school. Mhmm. So it would look very much the same as that. So that's the $35,000 request there.

Anyway, I mean, I guess we're, like oh, we're about to start my list. So I'm gonna ask you another question while they're doing that.

Sorry. Just trying to get the mic activated into the room.

Is there any way that Regan could chip in for some of this pedestrian safety by Maple Commons? I'm sorry. So we were talking about flashing beacons that are gonna go from Maple Commons across the street. Would they like to pay for some of that?

You know, we could we could always ask them. I mean, it's worth worth a shot. Right? Yeah. And there's a possibility of some additional funding, you know, that might be available from from the bike boulevards part of project mover. Oh, probably. Infrastructure. Infrastructure. So Okay. There might be there or possibly even someplace else, an an additional one. But superintendent, I just wanted to mention that the the feedback that I've gotten on the RRFBs, both of them are just very positive, and I've I've used them too. Yeah. And they're great, you know, because it it just makes the motorist

take the crosswalk seriously. Mhmm. You know, which some of the Yeah. It just adds that extra, like, sort of Yep. Cautionary.

And then the other crosswalk that we've kind of gotten some feedback on is by the train stations when people are crossing 9. Oh, wow. Okay. And then when they're crossing up at the top between Croton Point Avenue and Riverside. Right? That's another opportunity where it's a heavily cross street that, you know, I think, especially down closer to the train station, you kinda feel like you're playing Frogger a little bit when you're crossing. So that's an opportunity, like, if there was some additional money for beacons to think about other or other priorities,

crosswalks. I mean, I'm just saying that No. So I'm sorry. So you were saying you were saying Croton Point Avenue and Riverside, and where else? Croton Point in Riverside, and then Croton Point where the crosswalk crosses

9 A.

Okay. I mean, those are signaled intersections. Right? So I don't think you would put those Put those there. Yeah.

Hold on. Cross they're crosswalks.

Does the bike head have any feedback on other intersections that they would like to see? Yep.

They're actually we saw on their agenda that they're It was on the yeah. They're working on they're they're gonna start working on updating their plan. The master plan. So yeah. And, Brian, you missed. I was suggesting that potentially we ask

Regan to help pay for some of that

cost. Oh, the for the beacon? Yeah.

Doesn't hurt to ask. Then we can maybe do some more beacons. Yep. So because then also, like, with the train station, I mean, I know that Lot A isn't our future, but, you know, I'm thinking about kind of the crosswalks around Lot A because that is sorry. I'm looking at my phone. I'm looking at the map. The one from Lot A across Veterans Plaza Yep.

Guess that has a light. Right? There's a light there and there's also the walk, don't walk signs. Yep. So And those are, you know, sometimes those don't work necessarily, right, when you press the button, but those ones that those do work. Because you can I've been there, you press the button, and it cycle and cycles the lights to, you know, let the person cross safely. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I think the intersections that are of more concern or of as much concern to me are the ones where the students are walking to school. Because, you know, all the kids within a certain distance aren't getting a bus, and there are a lot of you know, we're trying to encourage bike riding. Yeah. The roads are very narrow. The sidewalks are you know, so there's a lot of opportunity, I think, for making the streets safer. Yeah. Especially since the kids don't have any other way to get school except

Yeah. The the beacons the beacons are are really great for those mid block crossings where it's just inherently danger more dangerous to cross. For sure. And, yeah, I think we've we've had some pretty good success with implementing them. And

superintendent, know that you were not such a fan of the signs being in the middle of the crosswalk because it's a I know it's challenging from a snow removal perspective, but we've gotten a lot of good feedback about the one on Cleveland. That, you know, that that's an area that we could think about doing a beacon when we pave Cleveland. Yeah. Instead of having a sign in the middle of that street, we would just have a beacon there. That's a good opportunity. That's that's a yeah. That's a mid block crossing. That would make sense to lavish. One. Right? So wherever we've had a sign, maybe we start thinking about shifting Safe routes. Safe routes.

Jeff?

So we have been removing those during storm right before storms Yes. And putting them back because that's really the only way we could we could do it. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Otherwise otherwise, you end up as in other communities where they're in three pieces on side of the road. Okay. And only one only one of them has been damaged so far, the one at Park, on Cleveland At Park. That one's been that one's been Hit a few times. That one's been tagged a couple times. But the the other ones are fine. Okay. Stormwater management. So next one is the Brook Street drainage project. So as you guys know, there's a design for drainage improvement down Brook Street starting from Obostro North and basically going all the way down towards North Riverside Avenue there. We did get money from the county for a portion of this. 50%?

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No.

So it would have been double this

or well Oh, well, yeah. We would have had to pay the full amount. Right? Yeah. 1.4.

Yeah. Yeah. So actually, the request is for about half of what you're what you're seeing there. Yeah.

I mean, this is this is a really exciting project. Right? Because this is for for a lot of reasons. Right? I mean, it's going to improve the residents the the properties of the residents that live there because there's multiple residents that have flooding issues whenever it there's a hundred year storm and, you know, the when things were built a hundred plus years ago, they didn't necessarily think about maintenance as as much as we do now. Right? Know, they said, oh, let's let's build a culvert and then we'll build a building on top of it. Right? You know? So, I mean, this is also a project that's been listed in our hazard mitigation plan for a number of years and so, you know, it's great to be able to, you know, show that we're making progress on that front.

You It's just it's something that's been in the pipeline for for a long time. Mhmm. Senator Moynihan used to say, we would have more projects like this if they were above ground.

Yeah.

People could see what it actually was. And, you know, and some could put their names on them and, you know, all of them. But it's it's great that we're getting it.

And is this a fully outsourced project?

Yes. This would be big.

Yep. And just also, we are working in coordination with Con Edison on this project because they're also gonna be replacing the gas main along Brook Street. So yeah. So we they're gonna go in and do their work, and then we're gonna go in and do our work, and then the road will be paved after that. So it doesn't have to be paved twice. That's what I was wondering. So is paving part of this 1.4 or no? Will that come later? Paving is, I think, paving is part of that. Right? And so is part of that. Yeah. Yeah. And so we'll be but we will be splitting that cost with Con Edison. Oh, good. So, you know, so, you know, if every if everything works out to the good in the end, this number should hopefully be less than what it is because we'll have split that paving cost. Yeah.

Okay.

And so there there is there are no capital investments associated with underground water pipes that?

Well, so water's at water's in a different section because it's funded out of the water fund. Okay. So these are all general fund. But, yeah, I mean, we can Okay. We'll we'll we're gonna get to water. Okay. Yes. I didn't see that as part of DPW,

so that's Yeah. Yeah. Water Water Fund is in a separate yep. Yeah. It's actually the last section before the end or second to last. Yeah. Next one, DPW Barrage. So the air conditioning units that supply air conditioning to the office area as well as the garage are original to the building, so mid nineties. We've been putting Band Aids on the one for the office for a few years now, and contractor last year said, I'll get you through this summer, but that's probably that's probably it. And the garage, actually, from day one never really worked. So in the summer, they don't really they have some fans and stuff going, but it never it never really kicked on.

So this funding is is a request to Hopefully, you'll get it done before the summer.

Yeah. This well, this week was a little little scary and kind of a reminder that, you know, this this work has to get done. But that's the that's the funding request for this money here. Next is equipment. You wanna go through equipment?

So yeah. So we're requesting a new four wheel drive pickup truck. We do that. We try to get one new one every year. This year, especially, trucks got worked pretty well out there this winter. So the ones that are on the tail end of the fleet, they come right to their end of their life, you know, a little little faster than usual. Next, we're looking for a new loader to replace the loader that we have now. Our loader currently now is a 2013, I believe. So we're at, you know, 13 years old. It's been a great loader. Still is a good loader. Yeah. But it was definitely pushed it was pushed to its limits a little bit deserves this risk. It depends. In its golden years. Yeah. And and and actually, we had a we had a pretty sizable breakdown with it at the biggest storm of the year.

And Past ten years. Yeah. Yeah. So

it was down for a while, and and and it was a pretty sizable repair. So we're looking for the new loader. Along with that new loader, we're looking for the snowblower attachment for the front, which we've never had here for the snow removal. As you all are aware, our snow removal process this this winter was pretty extensive, you know, especially after the the big one. Mhmm. And so having the snowblower will definitely help. It'll help just expedite getting the snow out of the roadway a little bit faster, than than our conventional way of doing it. So right now, if you've so you've seen pictures and and, you know, stuff that we put on social media, I utilized one of the the mini excavators that we've purchased throughout the years, and I was able to put a a grading bucket on it with a rubber edge, and we can go along the sidewalks, and we pull so there's no damage to the sidewalk and the sidewalk carriers. We pull it out to the street. Then at that point, our current loader has what we call a claw. So it kinda scrapes down the curb line, squeezes the snow, then we have to jockey around, pick it up, and dump it into our dump truck Mhmm. Multiple dump trucks that we have. So with the snowblower, what we're able to do is we're able to pull it out to the curb line, and now we're able to just continue a straight path. The loader, in theory, doesn't have to go into reverse. So every time you go into reverse, you're not moving snow. Right? You're going the opposite way. So we can line up the trucks where we can actually shoot the snow right into the bed of the trucks as we go.

What what will happen with this is we purchased this, and we will never have to worry about a big storm ever again. That's the beauty of this. Okay? So it's gonna save everybody a lot of aggravation. It's a guarantee Yeah. That we will have dry vanities for the next fifteen What is this thing?

Then we won't spend on the snow over time. Yeah. Right. The resale value. So, anyway, it's,

you know, there are other municipalities. I'm sure if you saw a lot of stuff on social media, they were posting them that that they have them, they work well. Mhmm. I think our operation will definitely, it it'll be a great plus to our operation that we do for snow removal. And then listen. It's getting to the other roads that we can't we don't have a lot of room in. You know, there's not a lot of room to take the loader, turn it around, you know, orient the dump truck so we can grab the snow and place it. You know, when our phone rings the day after the storm, when are you coming to clear our road? You know, that that doesn't end. This will this will allow a little bit safer route and allow us to do a little more in areas that sometimes we have to, you know, block off. And now now we kinda won't have to. We can just kinda run down the sides of the road, shoot in the truck, and take it away.

Sounds like a snow job.

Yeah.

So And a sampler in the in the second row.

We'll we'll get to you. So

that would be the loader. This year, we were able to move some funds. We actually this is why we pushed out one of the pickup trucks. We we we purchased the hook and go, which have been, which is now our second third one. Very, very convenient trucks because we're able to grab any of the bodies that we have for them and use them on on each truck. They were able to see that on the tour. Yeah. In the garage. Yeah. I guess so. In the garage. So with the funding that we were able to, again, move around, we were able to find one on the ground, which didn't have to be built and take years. We purchased it. We used the body from the one that we had already purchased because it goes right on it. So that's great. That truck's purchased and came to us about three weeks ago, it's going right out in the fleet, you know, next week, and going to work. But with that, we'd like to put a plow and a spreader on that truck too, which, those trucks are sizable trucks, so they kinda you know, they fall just behind our frontline big ones. I personally drive on on, you know, all winter, every storm out there, and, they're great trucks. They they can carry a 10 foot blade plow blade, which is bigger. The pickup trucks range about eight. Some pickup trucks go to nine. We're able to put a 10 footer on these, you know, which obviously, you know, the more you can clear it, the faster it is. And then, you know, put a a salt spreader on on the back too to salt as we go.

We as we spoke about that, that that's nice part about this truck is we can we can, you know, we can request for a $30,000 attachment package Mhmm. Rather than a $100,000 for a new truck to the so we can we can upfit that truck for different seasons and and sort of get the whole year out of it. And it's just, you know, it's a it's a it's a savings. Yeah.

And and and, you know, that truck also goes into our leaf removal. Right? So our leaf removal trucks that that throughout the years that have faded off into the sunset because they were back in the mid nineties. Mhmm. This truck, we're we're able to utilize it and put a delete body on it that we currently have, and and we go out and, you know, it becomes part of our leaf. So we don't have to worry about having another truck just for the leaves, you know, etcetera. So, yeah, they're great. They're they're they're very versatile and and we've had good luck with them so far. You know, as far as maintenance and breakdowns, they've been, you know, knock on wood, they've been pretty solid.

Great.

The the next section is the, the fire department. Manager Hilli, I don't know if you want us to to go through it or or, through the sections for the

Do you wanna fix building improvements or w so they can leave? Or I yeah. Why don't why don't you cover your Sanctions. Like, you know, the building items in the fire department.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. So we'll jump down to the ventilation system in the firehouses. So $60,000. This this is so when we did the EMS edition, we put in a a ventilation system. Basically, it it hooks up to the exhaust of the vehicle so they can start the vehicle in the in the garage and and get out and none of the exhaust fumes get into into the building. Mhmm. So this $60,000 Mhmm. It it would be for is a request to do to complete the Harman Firehouse. They have four bays that we would, you know, outfit with the same type of system. And, also, the next item is the epoxy floor at the Harman firehouse. Mhmm. So the reason we kinda put these together is, you know, the other firehouses do have an epoxy floor. It does protect the the floor and, you know, aesthetically, it's very nice as well. Mhmm. So we figured if we could put the ventilation system in first and then put the epoxy floor down, we won't be, you know, driving all over it when we do put that ventilation system up.

Next is the the next line item is the Harman elevator repair. So during our inspection, there were some repair items that needed to be updated on that elevator. So that $13,000 is is to cover the the repair of those. After that is the Harman Firehouse roof replacement. So that's, you know, original to the addition or I'm sorry, the new the renovation I meant on that building. It is in it's in need of replacement, unfortunately. So he got a price, you know, work with some contractors to get sort of a a figure on on what it would take to replace that roofing system.

And that's one of the projects that we have requested funds for. Yeah. So, hopefully, we are successful in that grant application.

Yeah. And then Harman, I mean, it's like a few big Harman projects, but then we should be kinda

pretty good. Should be good for for a while. Yeah. Hopefully.

Mhmm.

There is a cycle, though. Yeah.

And then we're gonna jump down to the Washington Engine Firehouse. The heaters, that's for the the apparatus floor. They're for the the theaters for the for that section of the of the building. Next. Parking. So the Brook Street parking lot, I know a few years ago, we developed sort of a sketch plan Yep. To improve that little parking area at the end of Brook Street. I believe we applied for our CDBG grant Yep. For that project, which unfortunately, I don't I don't think we've I don't think we got the funding for for that through the CDB CDBG.

Which I'm sorry. Which one? Park Brochery Parking Lot. Yeah. It was a very the parking lot is outside the area. Right? And so even though we tried to make the case that the people who would be using the parking lot Right. Live within the area, they did not go for that. So,

yes, we were not able to get that funded. No. No. Or are we still working on redrawing the area?

We no longer have we have no CDBG areas anymore.

Well, that's what I meant. But what we'll talk about it all separately. Manager, could we revisit that? Because now there's the new building that went up on South

Riverside. Right? The So the so the c d CGB CDBG Yeah. Community development block grant program is for areas that are considered low to moderate income. And so we had a sense and it's based off census tracks. And so we had a census track that qualified for that. But based off the 2020 census data, we no longer have any that qualify. So so that that yeah. So we're not eligible to apply for that program.

And I'll I'll go ahead, Nick. Just a quick question on on Brook Street. I was just I was down there today and, you know, just looking at, you know, how how nice it could be there. Once we once we do that, and and, of course, you know, we wanna help the residents, you know, there as much as possible, would it be restricted to to residents? Or could there possibly be, if there is spaces available, some relief to the business district,

you know, there. Yeah. I mean, we we could talk about the restrictions as, you know, before we open it. Right. I mean, you could you could make it so that it was only for Brook Street residents. You could make it so that there were some that were only With off street parking as opposed to on street parking, like on street parking, where you have very little control over, you have to go to the state to get things like that. Off street parking, you can basically do whatever you want. You have full control. Yeah. And theoretically, by by

by having that, it could reduce some of the pressure on on Riverside parking for if some of those are residents. But, you know, sometimes, particularly on weekends, you know, it it goes for a very long time with with just solid parking. So it's some It's something we should just think about to to help the North Riverside Business District. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's you could definitely,

you know, depending on how many cars there are there and how many spaces we can, you know, fit in the lot. We could I I imagine that we could identify some. The bottom line though, it's gonna be it's gonna be a great addition, you know, to that Yes. That whole section. Yeah. And hopefully just make the whole area safer Yep. Without the without the cars parking on the street. Is our portion of that, is it on Riverside and on Brook Street? No. It's Brook Street. It's just Brook Street. Yeah. The the lot that's that faces Riverside is privately owned. Okay. Yeah.

Manager, assuming guess, I assume this will have the budget approval. Would could you then put it on the public works

list on the website? Yes. Yeah. All of these once, you know, once they're approved and we're ready to you know, we're updating things for 2026. Yeah. We'll put all these projects up there. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I'd just be curious of understanding how many more parking spots we're gonna get from this area. I think I mean, we did draw a map. I think we came up with eight 18? That's yeah. Yeah. That's the number. It's in my It's bigger than you It's bigger than it looks because it goes when you just drive. Yeah. There's a And I mean, a lot of them are like weed trees and stuff like that. It's not real, you know, it's just But the configuration's got a lot of potential. Yes. So, I mean, it it basically will triple the parking that's there now. Great. Yeah. Okay. So Yeah. It's a really it's an exciting project. Yeah. That slope that current slope takes up a lot of space there Yeah. That could be used for for the parking. Yep. And this was another project. This has been on our project list for a number of years. Mhmm. And, you know, again, with the desire from the residents to see us increase spending on infrastructure, we moved this up into this into this budget year because this will be, you know, a tangible project that people will be able to really benefit from. Mhmm.

Okay. Next one is the drainage in Lot G. So when the the the canopies at the train station went up, the in the areas in where we had storm a storm water drainage system, the the roof leaders, you know, we did some some work to extend some of those areas. We're connected into the existing area. The section in G, we didn't have any drainage there. Mhmm. So we have to extend our drainage system down sort of that aisleway that goes out to the salt shed and then go out and and pick up the drainage meters there. That's why right now, those just sort of spill onto the ground because there's nothing to connect to. Yep. So they left the connection point for us. We'd have to we have to extend the system,

go up, and connect all those roof leaders in. Yeah. So so far, the the the ones where we do have gutters and the drainage system seem to be working as we anticipated.

I haven't yeah. Yeah. They work very well. Yep. Very well.

Do you know because we we we would know if they're Yeah. We would've Actually, the only complaints we've had are the ones that aren't connected to the system. Yeah.

You know, we originally left them unconnected because we we didn't really know how much usage Lot G was going to see. And, you know, we've seen an uptick in people parking there and then, you know, the expectation is when Lot A is no longer available, Lot G will become our overflow area when the daily parking is filled. So it makes sense to to get this going. And the the funds that are allocated for this, right, from fund balance are was a credit that we received from the Arivan, the company that did the did the project. Mhmm. Right? We we received a lease, not a not a lease credit, but we received a credit on the payment that we were making for the the drainage as a result of our sustainability chairman, mister Lindsey Auden. Mhmm. Right? Getting us advocating for us to receive part of the I forget exactly what it was called. It it was some sort of direct credit. Yeah. The IRA. Direct pay. Right. Correct. Yeah. The direct pay. It's basically tax tax credit that were eligible for us since we, you know, we don't pay tax. We don't pay taxes, so we had to We get the cash equivalent of the tax credit. So we agreed we agreed to split it with the developer. Right? So that was the $150,000

credit. So Do you know how long this work should take and how many spots might be unusable during the,

you know So you have a you have a a core group of very people that love to park in g right by right right by the tower. I I've noticed because I go down there every day, and they are diehards. They are there. That's their spot. Even though there's sure there's other spots, but they wanna be there. So we're gonna I'm gonna start, you know, close to to the to the tower, and I'm gonna work towards the salt shed and try to get the first few bays out of the way with them. So when when we're in there, we'll just we'll block off the one area, and obviously, we'll do a ton of notification, and we'll just kinda shleff them down a little, you know, one at a time Yeah. And do the work in that area, then get them back in and, you know, etcetera. And I think they'll be they'll be pleased in there because they won't have to deal with any anything come, you know, hopefully, by the by the wintertime. But but, again, it's one of them projects. This is a kind of a we do this. We control this. This isn't Yeah. Do this with a contractor that's on a that's on a bid from another municipality, and we oversee it. We buy all the material. We go down there with our guys. We do a lot of the restoration on the blacktop through the trenches and stuff. And now it's just to keep that cost and try to get as much done as we can. And that's how we're able to do the whole other section for basically, it was probably, what, maybe 10% of what they they want to charge us to do it. Yeah. It was it was a significant Yeah. Savings.

Yeah. So it works out well over there. That's great. Okay. Thank you.

And then the engineering design for the parking lot, I believe this is for the seawall. The seawall, the the the the flood mitigation project that we have Right. There to develop a structure to that would act as a seawall Mhmm. That when when that tide does come up, you know, anybody parked in those areas would would not be out of floodwaters. Exactly.

Yeah. And so we're our grant writer Valerie Manastra is in the process of applying to the county to fund 50% of this cost, right, under the same program that we got the money for So Brook Street. So

So this $2.02 59 could drop to something close to, like, $1.30, potentially? Correct. Yeah. Yep.

So yeah. And when we I'm gonna when we have the final capital plan to adopt next week, I'm gonna reflect that it would that we'll only be needing $1.30 because, you know, we're fairly confident that the that the county will award that that money to us. So And then hopefully with the engineering designs, we will continue to get money for this project. Yeah. That's that's the plan. Right? You know, once we get to you know, once we have the engineering plans ready Mhmm. Then then we have to shop it around, basically, and try to find, you know, a federal source or a state source or or somebody or some combination thereof, county money, right, that will help us, you know, because it's gonna be a, you know, you're looking at probably a $6,000,000

Yeah. It'll it'll project. Right? Will be a combination. Yes. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. So

Okay. Next is the emergency medical service. I think the only line item we have here is the so the the new EMS edition. When you know, while we're doing the Harman firehouse floor epoxy, we'd like to also get the EMS edition, floor, epoxied as well.

And doing them at the same time, we actually save a significant

Yeah. Doing here. Because the con yeah. Contractor, it'll be, you know, more appealing and they'll be in basically the same building. Right? So Well, and applause to the whole team through the EMS annex. It's beautiful. And Yeah. Yes. We got a lot of nice comments on that. Mhmm. I think they're enjoying it. And we look forward to the ribbon cutting after the epoxy floor.

There you go. They're dancing.

I may or may not have told trustee Nicholson that we couldn't have it until the that was the that was the final touch. It's

like I know. Very exciting.

It's fun.

Municipal Building. First one is manager Healy's replacement vehicle. He has a vehicle that is, well, in need of replacement. He's had it for a while and, know, it it it's time. So that's the the first item there. The second one, don't think it's ours. The third one, engineering department security upgrade. So I know we've we've spoken briefly about it in the past, but there's sort of a continuation of our security upgrades throughout the building. Mhmm. Engineering department is next. And pursuant to those conversations, it it it's sort of gonna be a a revamping of the of the department and doing some renovations there. We try to keep it semi open as much as we can. It's, you know, it's gonna be a little bit of a struggle while we're doing the work because it is a heavily visited department. They get a lot of residents coming in, so we're gonna do our best to make sure they're they're they're the residents can Yeah. Actually, they're uniquely exposed. Exactly. Yeah. So it's gonna be a little bit of a challenge. We we plan on doing both of that work in in house. Mhmm. So that'll help.

Sorry. Which line item is that? So that's Municipal Building. The the third one down, this engineering department security upgrades. Yeah. We that's why I was confused why it's called security update.

Well, it's we're up the the main purpose of this is because of the fact that the measures that are in the at the front counter for engineering, those were temporary. Right? Those were enacted in a very quick manner last fall. Okay. And so, you know, those need to be those you know, they're not they're they're temp they were meant for temporary purposes. Okay. So that was the genesis of this conversation. And then, you know, Frank and I have met with the village engineer and we've talking about it. And, you know, it was realized that we could incorporate a whole reorganization of the the office. Right? Because there's, you know, two more full time people now than there were Mhmm. A couple years ago. And, you know, they need more desk space and, you know, there's just there there could just be a better flow to the whole Mhmm. Office. So, I mean, in actuality, you could take the word security out probably and just say Yeah. Engineering department upgrade. Mhmm. You know, because that's really that's really what it what it is now, but that's that's how it started. Okay. Yeah.

K. Page three. I don't think we have anything in the police department. Recreation and parks. There are two items there. There's the park security upgrades. So that would be cameras in

So

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The screen on this side is not on. Nobody

from the audience wants to tell me? I thought you were telling me to quiet down. I was like, alright.

There you go. Sorry.

Go go ahead. Okay. So

can Croton Landing and and Senasqua there currently don't have any real security. There's an old system at Croton Landing that is well, not really obsolete much. It's obsolete. That's a good word for it. Mhmm. So this request is for to actually get some security measures in both of those those parks there. And the second item is the Do the police have hookups?

Like, who who's looking or watching?

The police would have they would be hooked up to the cameras. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And the bill and, you know, the buildings have alarm systems. Yes. Yeah. So these these are more just perimeter cameras for, you know, if there was an incident that occurred that we would have footage down there. Mhmm. Mhmm. And is that typical of other municipalities?

They this is how they monitor

their parks with a system like this? I I would think so, especially parks that are as heavily used as our as our parks, you know. If you had a you know, like, I I don't think that you would necessarily need them for, you know, like, the arboretum. Yeah. But, you know, or, you know, parks that are, you know, just for passive

use, but pretty Yeah. Pretty parks are pretty well camerad Yeah. You know, around the country. Especially the Senasqua in the summer, there's there's a ton of events there. Right? So And so then is there a sign that says, you know, you're Smile, you're on camera? Well, know, what if just something like this park is under camera surveillance or something like there's a lot of sensitivity, as we know, around Yeah. Cameras. So I'm just wondering if No. I mean, I don't I I

don't think that that's something that I mean, we don't do that in other places that are like, this building has cameras. There's no sign on the door that says you're on camera. So,

yeah. I mean I can I'll I'll ask our the folks from the City Parks Alliance what they typically do. Yeah.

This was in Capital last year as well with security cameras. What cameras were installed this year? Were they They were not. We ended up that money had to be used for Jobs Field. Correct. Yeah. Yep. And then just wanna put this out there because it was in the social media universe. There was some people were asking about cameras down at the train station parking lot. We don't have cameras there or do we? No. Do not.

But we don't have anything else. No. Mean, don't not in our parking lot. I imagine that they do in their in the station. Yep. Yeah. There was there was a camera down at the lot years ago Mhmm. But that hasn't worked in yeah. That that's long gone. Yeah. Yeah. So there there was some conversation

on social media that we should consider that for security purposes. Throwing that. Alright. Future

future thoughts.

And then from a park perspective, do we do we we have enough money in your maintenance budget to take care of the general maintenance of all of the parks this year? We don't really have any capital projects going on at any of the parks other than security cameras.

So, yeah. So for general maintenance, we should be also you know, any any big events that happen, like I mean, I can't even think of something that, you know, what where we'd have to we'd have to come and, of course, ask for some money. But for general maintenance and stuff, we But for the most part, all we do is Yeah. We don't have any big improvements.

Well, mean, except except for Povetayo. Right? That's a yeah. Yeah. But that yeah. That money's already been allocated. Yeah. Exactly. But that I mean, that's partially the reason why we're not Right. Yeah. That's that's our park project for this year. Park project. Yeah.

And then new senior bus is the next the the last item in Rex And Parks. Senior bus that we currently use is

well, it's time for a replacement. So Yeah. I've seen it today. Little it's It's a little bumpy for the seniors. We we we hear a lot about that on Fridays, especially the springs.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's time. Next is the water system improvements. So the one item we have here is for a water main to connect to DPW. So, basically, our proposal is to extend the water main from approximately where the water department is now. Daily you know, the intersection of Daily Drive there and go up 129 all the way up to our DPW facility. Currently, we served on a well. We are considered a a a public works I'm sorry, a public treatment system because we are a public building, and we're, you know, served by a well. Those were in regulation now, but though they're getting stricter and stricter every year. We're testing more, and there is a higher iron content in that water. Again, we're we need everything right now, but extending that water main Yeah. Would definitely help with that. Right. And it would also help with a fire suppression system. Right.

Yep. Which we're We we had talked a couple of years ago about a water main there really improves that entire corridor. Yes. And and creates some possibilities for business, you know, which which wouldn't come without water. Yeah. Possibly. We would be we would be able to,

you know, assuming people wanna connect, which I don't know why they wouldn't. Right. Right? I mean, the the school bus garage would be able to connect to our water main, and, you know, they would have to obviously pay for the water. Right? Yeah. There's the WD construction. Yeah. You know, they they would be able to do the same. Yeah. So

What about Black Rock Park? Would they benefit from getting water from this?

No. That Black Rock's in the opposite direction. We're going Yeah. You're going north? Northeast from the from the well fields. Yeah. But, I mean, there there is water at Black

Rock. Right? I mean? We have water, no sewer at BlackRock. No main sewer main, I should say. We have sewer, but no sewer main service at BlackRock. So this would basically travel right up one twenty nine from the water apartment up to Yeah. DPW.

And then you would have no issue with the state in terms of doing this? Oh, yeah. So it's a '28.

Oh, yeah. I wouldn't have to say that. The

day they gave 01/29

Yeah. Is the day that make Yeah. Project wise, it's it's it's a village improvement

through a state road in a differenTeatown. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there's nothing sort of flex city is fine. Yeah. I mean, we have to go we're gonna have to go to the health department and extend the water district. Right? I mean, there's just there but we've gotten, you know, we've the money we've gotten the money from the PFAS lawsuits that have been been paying out to the village. And so this money is there, and this is something that, you know, the superintendent and I have been trying to work on, basically, the whole four and a half years I've been in this seat. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, this this opportunity presented itself and we wanted to seize it. There was an EDA grant. We tried we tried that too. Yes. Yeah. Mhmm. And that, you know, we tried to go the economic development route and that didn't really that didn't really work. We tried to we tried to see if the school district would help pay for it. That didn't really work. Well, yeah. They

they said we'll gladly connect, but Yeah.

And why is the water main replacement and relining a 2027 capital? And So And and this one is a 2627. So does it have to do with how you thought about priorities for the village, or or are there other factors?

So so currently, we're going through design and approvals for water main relining on Loudounsbury. So we sort of you know, we're gonna get that done. Once that's designed, approved, and built, then we can go on to the next section. That's sort of how we handle handle those.

Yeah. We have we really only have the capacity to do one big water project at a time.

So And I'm just asking is which one so you feel that the water main connect to the garage is a higher priority

than the other one? It's not that it's a higher priority. It's a different it's a different priority. Right? I mean, the the money for Loudounsbury was approved in last year's budget, and we're working we're working through that right now. It's been, you know, it's been over a year, right, since we started working on that project. Generally, our, you know, our debt policy says that we're not really supposed to bond money. We're supposed whatever money we bond, we're ideally supposed to use within twelve months. So, you know, bonding money now for a water main replacement project that may not start for a couple of years Okay. Doesn't really make sense. Right. We're hoping yeah. We're hoping to get the Loudounsbury project done, you know. Hopefully, I'm here next year telling you the project is done. Right? So and then we'll be able to you know, like, the superintendent said, we'll be able to go on to the next onto the next street. Okay. Yep. Yeah. And then if you see, like, '27, '28, we have money funded for that, and then also 2930.

So that's sort of our our projection just on on on that type of project. And I think that concludes everything for our presentation.

Well, thank you. That's great. Thank you very much. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome.

Now do you feel like you have enough staff to do all these in my job?

No. No. We don't.

Nope. Well, see you next year. So

Thank you. Good night. You. Alright. We'll have the fire chiefs come on up.

Good evening. Hello, Ethel. Hey. How is everybody doing? Sweet. They

We talked about most of our stuff, actually. But, I mean, Chris, feel free. If you have things you wanna add, you can certainly do so.

We would like to get in on that water project and get a couple fire hydrants out there. Oh. That would On on help us a lot. On one twenty nine part.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. I don't see why we couldn't do that. I mean, obviously, we would need to discuss that with the town because it's in their in their you know, it's in the town, not the village. But I can't imagine why the town would be opposed to that. Yeah. It would it would it would help quite a bit for that. We know Mount Airy. Fire hydrants. I'm

sorry, Mary. We we discussed the cost of fire hydrants yesterday. Yeah. They're not cheap, but they're less than a fire truck.

They are less than a fire truck. Yes.

But would we need to put the cost of the fire hydrants into

this budget? No. I I I think we wouldn't have not at this point. I mean, there's we'd we'd have to like I said, we'd have to talk to the town and see if it's, you know, how that how exactly that would work. So, it's just it's just a little complicated because the property is not in the village itself, so Yeah. Yeah. Food for thought. Yes. Thank you.

So, the the top item we have is a a command car replacement. We try to do it every two years, and then we keep the we have three. The last one to get replaced becomes our utility or spare command vehicle in case one of them needs a a lengthy repair. That's been working out fairly well. We just started that a couple years ago, and having the the spare cars is a good thing. Otherwise, we don't have all the radios. One of us is driving a personal car to to the scene with a with a handheld radio, and it just doesn't work properly to protect the guys. So that we just try to do every two years. The numbers are a little bit skewed because we we say what we want two years from now and the number jumps rapidly Yeah. More than we are guessing. So, sadly, the numbers are a little bit shy for the car this year. And probably when this one goes next year, it's gonna be a little bit low as well. So, hopefully, it's not too low.

They touched on the ventilation system, which is great. It keeps all the diesel fumes and particulate out of the bay where all our gear is. And, you know, throughout the building, the personnel sleep for standbys. We eat there. So it'd be really nice to have that stuff installed to remove all that out of the building. Mhmm. The epoxy floor, of course, is to preserve the the floor itself. Some of the floors have cracks in them. It's aesthetically pleasing, which isn't the end of our our, our world, but it's a it's a nice a nice thing for the the guys and gals in the house. It's like a little bit of a an uplift to the building. So that's always good. Turnout gear would be next. We have to buy this every every ten years. Yeah. Our set of gear goes goes out of date. It only lasts so long.

Chief, would you say the the 75,850, it's about about ten ten outfits.

Just about 10. Yeah.

It just shows how complicated these are and how Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, they're they're more than outfits. You know, they're they're health protection and chemical protection and all of that. You know, a lot of the new cancer act,

the price of the gear went up quite a bit because they have a lot of new things in there as far as it it's tight around our waist, so nothing can come up. No fumes or or particulate from the fire, any kind of soot or anything. It keeps it away. The new hoods are more than triple the price, but they have a barrier inside of them to protect everybody from the

the cancer threats. Yep. And and we and, you know we have the the washing machines to get them in there as quickly as possible to get that stuff Yep.

Yeah. We take care of it very well. We try to rinse it off after every Yep. Every fire. We recommend everybody go home and showers right but we have now showers in the firehouses. So that's all part of the cancer act Yep. To help everybody else so they don't have to get in their personal car, get that all take it home. Messed up and then bring it home and took the same shower that their kids and Yeah. Family go into. The Harman elevator repair, they found, I believe, a leaky piston and some other things that they said it'll it'll hold out. So that's budgeted for the upcoming season. The roof replacement, we were kinda told that that had to be done. We know the building is as old as it is. I think they wanna do solar on it one of these days as well. Right? So this is kind of a Yep. It's a free requisite. Yeah. Mhmm. For that. Get the roof done first. Yeah. Yep. And the the Washington engine heaters are from 1978, '79. Right? Yeah. Mhmm. The building was new, they're they're about this big. And there's when you open the 14 foot square door in the middle of the winter, it it it takes a really long time to to warm it back up. It's it's good. We have to do a lot of work after after fire calls in there.

And then you have to turn on the exhaust when the door opens up because of the fumes. Have the fume extractor going on. So the heat runs out of the building at a 100 miles an hour because of the the system that's there, the system that everything that needs to be improved for for many reasons.

Somewhere along the lines, we overlooked adding into the capital two ice machines. Right now, we only have one currently working at the Harman Firehouse. The Grand Street, that one actually broke down. We took the one from Grand Street when they were doing the the basement, all the work on the front wall, the basement, and the engine floor, and we brought that over to Harmon to replace theirs. So right now, Grand Street does not have one, and Washington's is broken, and the parts are really hard to find, apparently. We're always waiting for for them to find parts, but we we coordinate our efforts with the ice machine repair guy so he just finds a top normally to fit on the bin. But every couple years, just like everything else in life, they have to change everything. Mhmm. So we're hoping to be able to just find a top that fits nicely on the insulated bin that holds all the ice. If that could happen, we would we would like to see maybe $11,000. It does comes with a little bit of electric work and a little bit of plumbing as well if

So that's what we we expense you're asking for? It would be in addition to this. Yeah. Yeah. We forgot to write that in there. What is that called again? What's that? It's an ice machine. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So it just generates ice for us at the firehouse for rehab or drills and

calls and Chief, this is for

Grand Grand Street? One for Grand Street and one for Washington Engine. Okay.

But does the 11,000 cover both?

It should. It should.

And the people people feel that it's okay? I think so. Think so. Yeah. Yeah. If you're if you guys are saying you need it, then we have to consider it. Yeah.

It's Yeah. I I kinda we we we have the cold drink in the water. Ice. What's that? It's the least we can give you a little ice. You know? Yes. We had plenty over the winter, and now we miss it. Yeah. Right. No. Was gonna say, leave some water in the engine room, and it will Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why is the cancer prevention

plan at 2028 expenditure?

Is that something that So that would there's a program that that's an ongoing program that was started by one of the former chiefs. So they have money that's still in that account that they can use for items that are, you know, for example, the chief was talking about the hoods. Right. Right. So they have money that's currently available that they can use. We're not postponing any need. No. No. Okay. That's just anticipated when it will need to be replenished. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. We're we're still looking to build one more shower in the Grand Street Firehouse.

Right now, there's one upstairs, and we would like to put one more downstairs.

So that that would be an additional

That would be out of the existing money that we have. Okay. Yep.

So since I'm not this is like, you know, last time I did budget was about forty years ago, and I'm I just had a question. Are we allowed to ask questions? Yes. So it's a five year plan, essentially. So something comes up, you know, the issue with the the second vehicle that's probably gonna not last as long as we had hoped, and some of the other items that come up along the way. Can we submit the capital items during the course of the year, or do I have to wait for next year's budget cycle in order to not that they'll be accepted or paid for, but essentially to make the five year plan a bit more solid and a bit more whole.

Can that be done at any point during the year? I mean, it's it's preferable if you keep your documentation and then submit it as part of the budget at once. Right? So that that way, you know, it doesn't it's it gets included. You know, obviously, if there's an emergency situation, like, if one of the chief's cars is inoperable and it can't be fixed, then the board will have to deal with that as it occurs. But if you're just walking around the firehouse and you say, oh, it would be really nice if we had, I don't know, two kitchens, whatever. And then you decide that you want to put that in as a budget request, just save that in the budget folder until you're ready to You're just you're just updating the out years is what you're doing. Yeah. You can do. But we don't this is this is not a living document. Right? It doesn't we the board adopts it in April and then it stays as it is throughout the throughout the the course of the year. The fiscal year. The fiscal year. Correct. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, it it we'd

inadvertently, we'd missed and just kinda thought about Washington has been painted twice in forty two years. So, I mean, I don't know if that's a capital expenditure, but something like that that's of sizable, you know, the engine room and some of the other areas that haven't been painted twice in forty two years. I mean, you wouldn't do that to your own home. You know? Yeah. You'd paint it more frequently than that. So, you know, those kinds of things come up from time to time. But Yeah.

Yeah. Curious. Just make just, you know, make make notes and, you know, obviously, if you want if something comes up and you're not sure how much it would cost, like, for example, the painting, you can always email us and and, you know, or email DPW and ask them, you know, how much for the how much this would be for, you know, future planning purposes that we can you know, we can discuss that so you have the right information. Well, and that wouldn't be a capital expense. Right? That would be a I don't I mean, it could no. I mean, it would be a regular that that particular example would probably be just regular building maintenance. Just building building maintenance. So they have a budget for building maintenance Yes. Already. Right? So it's sort of Yeah. Depending on what the cost is and what else is planned for that line. Right? I mean, we'd have to Yep. And would that be a DPW,

you know, thing? Like, they just presented a couple of things for the firehouses,

or would it be It's gonna it it will depend on all the other workload that they have. And, you know, I mean, ideally, that's something that we would like to do in house. Yeah. They do paint. Yeah.

Right. I mean, so it would be in 1620 maintenance of public buildings? No. They have the in the '34 in thirty four ten,

they have a 4,600 line, which is buildings to grounds. The exhaust system generally, walls get cleaned. Yeah. So Yeah.

Yeah. Generally, they do painting in the winter because, you know, it's an indoor activity. So

And I missed what Frank said about the exhaust system. I know they did EMS.

Yep. So in this upcoming year, it's gonna be the the four bays of Harmon. Of Harmon. Yeah. And then in next year's budget, we have the money for Washington And Grand Street. And then the following year would be oh oh, the two year the two then? Yeah. And okay. Correct. Yep.

That's excellent

Yes. For now.

Anything else?

Any questions? I don't think so.

Thank you. Thank Thank Thanks for everything. Be careful, the next group's got guns. Alright.

So like $30,000 for budgeting for building and grounds maintenance. Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, there there are a lot of maintenance items that come up Yeah. You know, for the for, you know, for the different yeah. The Grand Street is very old. Right? You know, there's a lot of different items that come up. So, I mean, I the first thing is to find out exactly how much it would cost to actually paint the whole thing. Right? And then see if it's something that's that's feasible to do. And I apologize, but the the the

Grand Street roof, they're pointing electrical system, a whole bunch of accidents that we had sent.

Can you just come back to the mic, Joe, if it's gonna be a if it's gonna be a conversation? So the

the Grand Street Firehouse, brick pointing, roof, gutters, air conditioning, and oddly enough, when they did the rehabilitation 1995, they put in a very large generator that only emergency generator only covers a portion of the building. And I think that's probably gonna be little bit bigger project than average to have a full building

generator kind of thing. Yep. So Yeah. That money is in the in the budget for next year. It for sorry. For the following year. 2720. 2720. Okay. Correct. Thank you, Brian. Yeah. Thank you. You. Thank you. Alright. Thank you. Good night. Thank you. Have a good night. Alright. Ken, did you have anything you wanted to talk about with EMS? Yes. Alright. You wanna come up?

How are you doing? Good. Good to see you. We're getting ready for our DOH audit, so I apologize for being

That's okay. Can you just introduce yourself you. No problem. Thank you. So I I don't know. Do you wanna talk about the capital items?

Yeah. So it's funny because Phil was texting me also. So as we were getting ready for the DOH audit, we happened to find the other Lucas device that is actually in the in the capital fund Mhmm. For this year. So I think we're probably gonna have to remove it. Oh. Oh, okay. And then Now I can buy But don't get too excited. Don't

get too excited. Uh-oh. So what we're So we're

actually gonna do is probably add a third life pack Okay. To that also. Yep. The reason being so one of the pro one of the things that we have been striving to do is become one of one of the progressive BLS agencies in the area. New York State DOH has now allowed us as EMT basics to start using eye gels, which is a type of subglottic airway. And to do that, our members need we need certain pieces of equipment to allow us to move on to the next step. So over the past few months, our members have been completing the required training through our CME program, which was actually where I was when I was told, hey, you need to get there. So, Shannon O'Neill, who's our CIC, she's actually, we're building right now teaching our CME program for tonight, is documentation and call review. So, you know, one of the things that we need a couple of the items that we need for the subglottic airway is capnography, which is able to be done through the LifePack. We also need to be able to do a BLS twelve lead, those are very capable of doing as such,

as well as pulse oximetry and blood pressure. These are all items that we need to have in order to move on to the next step. Our members have been very well very good about completing the training. We just completed the ipratropium training, which allows us to move on to the next step, which was CPAP. So we did CPAP back in February. Last month, we did cardiac the BLS 12 lead for our EMTs. So with that, we're now moving forward with the next portion, which is the subglottic and the c end tidal CO two.

Very good. So

I apologize.

That's okay. I throw a lot of stuff out. So

it's High level. So Yeah. What will you be able to do? And is it the difference between an EMT and paramedic?

There's a big difference. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We currently provide basic life support to the We do we run EMTs. EMTs only Yes. With no paramedic service. Paramedic service comes from our good friends in Ossining. And, you know, they're great to work with. You know, we've had incidents in the past where both ambulances have broken down. We call mister chief Franzoso and next thing you know, I have an ambulance to borrow until one gets fixed. You know, we've been very fortunate to have his partnership and his kindness doesn't go unnoticed. You know, earlier this year, we added a second pay staff from 6AM to 6PM, which has only helped us provide better coverage for the residents of this village and beyond. Working with him and everything that he's been doing for us and the community really helps us big time. And, you know, sure we see it in the revenue recovery as well. But, you know, without Nick's help and, you know, his paid staff, especially this week and the weeks beyond, these guys really been knocking it out of the park, especially helping us prepare for this audit tomorrow.

You know. But the additional life packs, so when you're saying you're doing more trainings, you can do more Yeah. Life saving measures for people? Yeah. So it'll allow us, it will, the symbiotic airway will allow us to

deliver oxygen faster through BVM without having to wait for the paramedic to arrive to drop a endotracheal tube. Okay, you know. So, it's a rapid deployment device. It's a device that they tried up north with multiple agencies, and now has started to come to fruition for us down here. Mhmm. It's providing better care for everybody.

Mhmm. So you you propose since we're not gonna need the the Lucas CPR

machine, just add that to the life pack categories, which would be how many So it would be three total. Three. Three total. One for each ambulance and one for the new supervisor. Roughly.

Give or take a few dollars. It's roughly equal. So we've I mean, we found refurbished ones. Yep.

The fours are the fifteens are slowly making their way out Mhmm. And the 30 fives are coming in. Okay. But the 30 fives are way too advanced for what we need. Mhmm. So the fifteens are really what really what we need, a 100%. Right.

So this really it's I've I've seen some some video on this. It's very advanced in terms of, you know, what what used to be be necessary to do, which is very, very difficult in terms of restoring the breathing capacity. Yeah. It's it's definitely, you know, it's definitely an advanced procedure. Yeah.

With getting the certification for it Yeah. There you know, the state's very strict. Yeah. And so is the regional council. Yeah. We have to not only submit our training plan to the regional council first to get their approval, once it passes their approval, it actually has to go to the state the state has to approve it as well. Yeah. So there's two approval processes before we can even think about doing

this. And such a high percentage of your calls have have to do with breath, and breath is life. Airway, breathing, circulation. Yeah. You know,

it's the triangle of life. Without one, you have nothing. Right. Mhmm.

So Yeah. I I would I would think that that doing that substitution would make sense.

Yeah. Definitely. And

one of one of the other things that I was asked to bring up. So we did because of the new construction that has happened at the park at the sorry. At the school field at Spencer Field. Mhmm. Mhmm. The path has become extremely tight for the ambulances. So we did we are we attempted to price a UTV before, but we, unfortunately, weren't able to get it in in time. So, Brian, I apologize. So you can you can yell at me later. I did we do have one priced at 56,000 or just about thereof. This is a utility

vehicle? Yeah.

So it would be it would help us it would help, so right now, what would have to happen is the ambulance would have to park at the top of Spencer Field, we would have to wheel the structure all the way down to the base of the hill, and when it comes to a patient, it's not safe for them. Yeah. So being able to get them onto a vehicle to get them to the top of the hill to the ambulance where it's waiting is not only better for them, but better for us as well.

We not are we not able to use the fire department? So

we looked at it because of the way that it's designed. It's too high, and there's nowhere for the EMT to sit to monitor the patient.

Is this I guess I'm school? Sorry. I guess I'm just wondering if we did we have any like, was there any conversations between This is the emergency learned this with you learned it. Right. Yeah. So I don't mean to be directing that at you. I guess I'm just saying it out into the universe. When the when that because this is a brand this is brand new. It was just built. I I guess I wonder what kind of conversations were had during that design process with any of our emergency

services. As far as we know, we had no we we were as when we showed up for the first game last year and they attempted the back end, was like, wow, we can't fit. Oh. So, you know, I do we do have an ambulance slated in four years?

Four or five. And at the at the old Spencer, the ambulance was able to go down? Oh, that's frustrating. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's good information to have. About twenty nine thirty? That's 2930 is the next ambulance. Four years. So, you know, of the things that we are looking for that year is going with a smaller ambulance. Mhmm.

Right. Not only to help us navigate that, but right now it's unsafe. Oh, like, navigate Spencer or just Navigate just Well, navigate Spencer and tighter areas in So the you would go with a smaller Yeah. So instead of going with the four fifty ambulance, we would go with the three fifty ambulance with a smaller box. I mean, I just wonder if there is an opportunity to talk to the school district to think about kind of that roadway and could we it be expanded versus

because that that just it seems unsafe to

not get be able to get a handle on that. Or that we have to be there for football. Right. Right. It's a state it's a state requirement. Big track meets, all the all the other things that happen. Would they like to partner with us on the cost?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I I we will have to look into this. Thank you. Yes. Listen.

I I was told to ask. And so I I was was told to know that. Well, it's important for them to know that. Did you know?

I feel like we all believe in sports. I believe the captain. I believe she's had well, with the previous athletic director who is now I believe she's no longer with the district. She will be through the end of the school year. Okay. So I know that there was a conversation. And

She'll probably have it with the super well, I don't I mean, don't know how that conversation happens, but We'll talk we'll talk more about this. Yeah. I'll I'll find out some additional information and come back to everybody. Thank you. Thank you.

That's I mean, that that's pretty much all we got. Epoxy floor, again, the new building is working great for us. DPW has been there to try to finish what they can. So we're very thankful for that. Yeah. You know, just getting the floor done, we'll just give it that big boost that we need to finally make it home. Yeah. Well, you know, when I think back to those early meetings, what are we gonna do? You know? And Yeah. And to see it there is incredible. I I I mean, it's hard to believe that I'll be a member eleven years this year. Yeah. And from being from the house to where we are now, I mean, I had a unfortunately, I had a bunch it seemed like I was talking to Brian every other week because something was going on Well, that's between the ambulance breaking down and having to purchase a new ambulance. And mold. And mold situation in the basement.

You know,

Brian, I definitely got a ton of phone calls and emails going back and forth and No. And I always thought I mean, the crazy thing is you're you're going out into the field Yeah. To save lives,

than going into a house where you're endangering your own lives. So Yeah. You know, and and We made we made the right decision. The board then couldn't thank them enough couldn't thank you guys enough for the hard work and the dedication that you guys showed us to show that, no, it's time. Yeah. You know, and just watching the building go up. Yeah. And you guys rolled up your sleeves on the design and everything that we needed.

Right. We we're getting lot very

grateful for hard work, especially the DPW guys really knocked it out of the park. It was amazing. They did a fantastic They really did. And again, they're still helping us. You know, I don't think there's a day that my wife and Scott aren't talking. Yeah. Well, you know, that's an example of literally, we probably could not have done it without them. Yeah. Just in terms of the way it makes it economically feasible to have done that.

Thank you. You. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. You. Good luck with the audit tomorrow. Yeah. Thank you.

Say hi to everyone with your last name. That's helpful. Will do. Okay? Thank you. Last

but not least.

Yes.

Look over.

Or maybe I should have said we saved the best for last. Yeah. That's right.

Well, thank you. Alright. We alright. Alright. So we put in for several cars. We've actually put in for three. We got cut down to two. These are gonna replace the four wheel drive cars that we out have that are extremely old and rotting apart in the parking lot as we speak. They're roughly gonna be, you know, as I said, a $175,000 for two of them. That includes the lighting and equipment and everything we need to put in them.

And I he's gonna be I'm sorry. Go Are these gonna be trucks or are these gonna be SUVs? What are what are they gonna be? Excuse me? Are they gonna be trucks? Are they be They're going to be, yes, s large SUVs. They could be

an explorers or whatever. They're gonna be some type of large vehicle, four wheel drive. As much as we have all wheel drives, they don't work as well as four wheel drives, we pretty much learned that this winter. Next, we have police equipment. We put in for a couple more speed signs, which, are gonna replace some of the, ones that are no longer working throughouTeatown, including the one coming in to the village on 01/29.

You just I knew that wasn't working. It it I said once that happened. A little bit, and then it stopped. Yeah. Time I drive past that, I'm like, it must be me. It must be bad timing

because Brian assured me that it works. We put we put the trailer out there. Okay. So the trailer's out there in lieu of that right now. We put the big one out there that kinda has a message board on, and I think he set it to say slow down, so that's coming into the Village now. We also need a new ID printer that's the printer that we use for all our IDs and most of the village employees. The one we have is pretty much not working. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So,

that has this be same type of machine that the I have no idea exactly what kind of ID you're talking about. But is it the same kind of ID that the that rec uses?

No. No. These are, these are key cards that we Oh, wow. You know, that we can use to access the building, but are all they also serve ID cards for the employees. Okay. Got it. Yeah. You know.

So that needs to be replaced. We need computers, desktops, laptops. That's all part of that $39,000 It's almost $40,000 The body cameras we have been discussing for a while. We do have money that we got from a grant. That money should pay for approximately the first two years of the contract. It's actually a five year contract, but through the grant, have enough money for

I think pretty much to pay for the first two years. So it's a five year contract and how much is it a year?

It goes So the go from body worn cameras. So the total for that was 675,000 and it's 163 the first year, then it goes down a 127 and continues that for the next four years.

That's a different number, John, than the proposal I signed. It's what? Three o

That yeah. That's a different That higher was number. It was it's Oh, we went down. Yeah. We went down. Yeah. Okay. The the

What was the 4143

o one? The chief read the wrong number. Read the original proposal. That was original. Yeah. Sorry about that. No problem. Okay. So the number the number is 414301. That's the five year total. Four five years. Correct. Yeah. So starts the first year is seventy six thousand. Mhmm. And then goes seventy nine thousand, eighty two thousand, eighty five thousand, eighty nine thousand. So the number that's actually the number that's there, that 100,000, will be slightly lower. Because I think, lieutenant, that the the original proposal had a payment that was due in June in May and then also in June. Correct. Yes. Yeah. So they Combined it. So that that number represented combined, and then I guess they, maybe, they smoothed it out over the five years instead. Yeah. Yep. The the out years are are all operations and maintenance costs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Primarily primarily with with

data storage and with other And and and the grant is paying for the the equipment.

You could look at it that way if you wanted to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it that's a sizable amount of money, 82 average

$85,000 a year going forward Yep. To maintain. And then I would imagine we would need to replace the cameras.

I think that there's something did I read something that they provide replacements? They do provide replacements. As long as you as long as you have the maintenance contract. Correct. Yeah. Yes. Then they will

pay for the replacements. So this is like an ongoing cost to the village of $85,000 in just software and maintenance for body cameras.

And the initial purchase for the units. Right. And that's also for the in car cameras.

Correct. Okay. Yeah.

IT upgrades. I'm gonna just let the lieutenant tell you that one, because. Well,

it's just for A1 Computers who handles pretty much all of our networking. This has recommended several cybersecurity upgrades, and that's basically what well, that comprises a large chunk of this 46,000. And then the second part of that 46,000 is to clean up our server room downstairs, which is in desperate need of being cleaned up. We have lots of wires that we don't know where they go. We have lots of old servers on the rack that we can't fit any additional ones. So it's that, and then a lot of cyber security upgrades whether that's auditing software for the network, penetration testing for, you know, to to see if we have reports open, it's all it's just, you know, I don't Is that a requirement for the accreditation? No.

Okay. No. It's just a it's just a best practice. Neat Neatness counts. That's what For the server, yes. That's correct. The cybersecurity upgrades. That's No. That is not for Okay.

For accreditation. No.

So

we mean, we use a IT contractor, though. The police the police have a separate IT contractor than the rest of the village does. Okay. Yeah. But we but yes. We have IT. Yeah. You seem pretty well versed. Like He may well, he may have a future career when he retires. Yeah. But

we have someone sort of doing this. Right? We're going through the server room. Yes. Yes. Yes.

IT guy is someone much more well versed. Mister T, our IT guy. That's right.

You wanna go in Any other okay. And then the big ticket item we're asking for is the digital the new digital radio system. That is a must. Our radio system is at the end of life. No one uses the analog anymore. We currently use a radio provider that keeps some of the old parts that people have already replaced in case we need a part because we're probably the only ones that still have the old system. It is a big safety issue. I know it's a lot of money, but it keeps going up every year. And we started asking for this several years ago,

and I think it's a it's a must. Yeah. It's it's necessary. And this, this solves, you know, which we've talked about before, the interoperability problem, in in terms of being able to talk to everybody else at the same time. Yes. Fire, EMS, other other police departments, the state, the county. I mean, it's it's

it's gonna be a major

upgrade to the village and the safety of the police officers and the community. Yep. And and I I should add, the manager knows this much better. We did try to get a a grant for this from our our congressional

folks, but it was not successful. Correct. And and, you know, as chief said, this has been something that we've been looking at for some years now. We've tried to, you know, we tried to install some additional towers in hopes that that would help with, you know, some of the dead spots in in the village. And, you know, unfortunately, it just has not has not helped. There's still a lot of areas where the where the radio where the coverage is not great. And as the chief said, the technology is just really at the end of its useful life. And, you know, on top of safety for the village and the community, I mean, our radio systems pretty much do not work in any of the schools.

So that's a big problem for us. So it is it is a major safety issue. When would these be available to you? Well, I would imagine it's gonna take some time for them to build and put together once we get a purchase order. I'm hoping we can tell them sometime in the near future that it has been approved and maybe we can get them to start to work on it if we can get a PO or a promise or whatever. They they do work pretty well with us if, they know we're gonna be able to fund it, they may be able to start to move forward on the project before we actually have the funding.

Okay, so I'm gonna ask a dumb question, here goes. No question is dumb. So, digital, okay, so we are currently on an analog system, right? This is going to move us to digital. So in terms of kind of what this means from a cell tower perspective, right? Like how does digital run? Like, I know that dead zones are a problem when we talk about our cell phone and cell issues and pockets of cell service. Does this help that situation?

No. Is completely This is just for radios, a two way radio system. Two way radio system. Yeah.

You're still having cell phone drop issues.

We have cell phone drop issues. We're

what helps that. Yes. Right.

And we still may have to put up a couple of the little towers that we're working on because everything talks to each other. I I I don't know how the digital system actually works, but Yeah. It is the state of the art. It's you know, and we're probably we're probably five or ten years behind. I mean, digital's been out for a while. It's been out for a while. You know? So Does our fire department use a digital? The fire department uses digital, but that's mostly I think I don't know about

their particular system here, but they're connected to the county system, and that's all digital around 60 The county the county provided the radios for the fire department. Yes. Yeah. So Yeah. I'm I you know, I mean, the big big conversion was really in the teens. Mhmm. You know, the 2015, 2018, you know, that's when people would and, you know, Motorola was the big dog. I don't know if they're still Yeah. Yeah. You know, but they they they do a good job. They do. And you're reliant on the digital radio system and your radio system in communications

with each other, more so than your cell phones,

would you We

we use and we like to use our radio system because everything is recorded. Okay? We don't wanna use our cell phones. Mhmm. You know? Yeah. We may have to at certain times, but we want everything to go over the radio system. Yeah. Then It documents times, logs, know, when they were sent, when they get there, everything needs to be documented.

And concerning, just kind of back to self-service because we're gonna be talking about that someday in the near future. You know, where are your major concerns there in terms of your cell service geographically?

It really depends what system you have in this village. Verizon does seem to work about the best, but there's 's still a lot of dead spots.

T Mobile does not work from the intersection of Maple Street and Grand Street all the way out to the Hunter Brook Bridge. Completely dead. And I know that because I have T Mobile.

Yeah. In our study, I mean, in our study, that's that was what we found. Mobile had the worst service. And and that, you know, we also found that dead spots were based on your on your carrier. Yeah. Yes. You know, even,

Optimum is pretty there there there none of them are great in the village. Yeah. I mean, by far, Verizon's probably the best, but there are still many dead stone. I mean, I still keep because it doesn't work up by me half the time. So, you know, you can be in the bedroom and walk into the living room and you're done. Yeah. You know, that's just the way it is. So Thank you.

May I have you back? And

then last but not least is the staffing study that we're asking you to do, because we keep requesting manpower, so. All right. Any other questions for any of our stuff? Thank

you. All right. Thank you. Thank

you. Thank

Okay. So let me just I think there were maybe a couple things that we didn't cover that were on here. So let me just look quickly. So the under the municipal building where we had the administration efficiency study, I think we've decided to take that out of the of the plan for the time being. Yep. So that will be removed. And then under planning, we have shoreline resiliency study for Senosco much like we did for the parking lot last year, I guess it was. We'll be looking to do an initial study for Senasco as well and see that what we can come up with in terms of, you know, stabilizing the the park there. Yep. Yep. Fantastic. Yep. And I think I think we covered everything else. So Mhmm. Okay. So then we move on to the recap? Yes. Okay. So I put together a little document, which is not on the I didn't put it up there because I was updating it throughout the afternoon.

Is this what you emailed us?

No. This is this is this is my, like, cheat sheet. Okay. So Okay. We have nothing nothing to look at. Correct. Okay. Yeah. So just in terms of assessed valuation, I guess, you know, Jeanette, if you wanna just just bring up the budget and then click on the summary, budget summary. Thank you. So the assessed valuation for the village has actually gone up. Right? The town assessor provided an updated number since the tentative budget was filed based on updated exemptions in the town. So the assessed valuation has increased by 29,321 from that from that number. So the new number is $2,020,783,045, which is which is good news, right, because that means whatever potential tax increases adopted will be spread out more. Mhmm. Right? Because there's more assessed valuation. In terms of general fund revenues, for the interest and penalties line, which is where the charges that peep if people pay their taxes late, the that's where the funds get charged to. Based on the three years of actuals, we've we've brought in an average of $44,596. And so I had budgeted 35,000 for that line. So I think it it's safe to go up another 5,000 in that line to bring it to 40,000.

And then in terms of parking lot permits, we've currently brought in 1,500,000 in parking lot permits. I had budgeted 1,437,000 for parking lot permits. So still being conservative, but I'm thinking that we could increase that by another 13,000 to to be $11,450,000 Mhmm. For permits. So we have a net increase in the general fund revenues of 18,000 from the, yeah, from the money that the 10,008,000

that's there. Mhmm. Yeah. That's good.

Realize I didn't update that number in my spreadsheet, so that's gonna make this my other numbers wrong. Uh-huh. Okay. So, anyway, in terms of expenditures, in the justice court, the a eleven ten, we just were notified today that the part time employee in the court is retiring. And so we've reduced that salary slightly just based on the fact that's gonna be a new employee coming in. That's a a decrease of $900 from from that line. For a thirteen twenty five, which is the treasurer's line, there was an additional software program that we had not budgeted for that we're adding in, so that's in another that's a addition of $1,300 in the treasurer's office. For $16.40, that's the central garage, which is where we have our fuel costs. Right? And based on world events Yes. We've we feel it's prudent to increase that budget. So we're going up to 185,000 in the fuel line, is an increase of $17,000.

And are you taking that from contingency?

I did not take it from contingency. I just added it to our I added it to the budget. I left the contingency amount as it is. Yep. So, yeah. In full transparency, this is really a guess Yeah. Because we don't know how things are gonna go. Yeah. Right? I mean

It's in fuel and other areas. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

So, I mean, the the 185,000 was, you know, our high mark in some of the other years where there was also Like, 2021? Yeah. Exactly. Like, when there were all other issues in that area. So yeah. But it really is gonna depend if it if it goes on for a long time. Right? I mean, that number is surely gonna be low. If it gets resolved and, you know

No. I think it's it's the smart thing to do. Yeah. Yeah. But what does this do within the tax cap? Where Where are we at?

Spoiler alert. We are under we remain under the tax cap. Woah. Congratulations.

Sorry. We are under the tax cap. Yeah. Because we we have because we have pluses and minuses here, so it's it's a Right. A modest impact on

previous numbers. Are you conclude is that No. No. I have a couple I have a couple more. So in a eighty five sixty, which is the shade tree line, I've I've reduced that by $2,400 because the replacement trees are now funded through our tree fund. Oh. Right? So people yeah. So people that take down trees are gonna be paying for the new trees now. So so we don't have to budget for that. And then in the benefits line, because of the the new PEO that we hired needing a slightly different medical plan than the previous PEO, and then also, the because of the reduced cost with the intermediate clerk in the court, our benefits costs were reduced by $3,359. So those five things that I listed there resulted in that increase of in expenditures of $11,006.41.

Okay. So your expenditures went up by 11 and our revenues went up by 18? Correct. So we've got We $7,000?

More like more like 6. More stuff tonight. Well, that's what yeah. But that was that was capital. Yeah. So those five things that I listed there, those are basically the required changes. Right? You know? Then there were some other things that we've talked about at various times, right, that I listed as potential changes. Right? So the first thing was the dues for the association of business in Croton. Mhmm. Is how much? $1,500.

Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to point out that president of the association of business in Croton is here. Thank you. And we've been observing government at work. Thank you.

So so that would go into a 1910, which is our municipal dues. Is that right? 1910? Yes. Yep. Okay. And I thought that was insurances for some reason. Insurance. Yeah. I thought that's just I wrote that. I was like, I don't think that's right. Is it 1920? It's it's in there. So Municipal dues 1920. It's where okay. Yeah. So yeah. So it's '9 a 1920 is municipal dues. So that would if, you know, we would increase that by $1,500. Mhmm. Is there any objection to that? Nope. Okay. So the next thing was invasive species removal at Govea. So we had put a grant in for this through the Lower Hudson Prism, which I forget what prism stands for, but it had to do it's something with invasive invasive species management. Right? A new one. And so we had put in a grant for this for the cost that we got was $6,222 from Trillium who does all the other invasives for the village. Right. This was actually pointed out to us by our former CAC chairman, John Ehler. Mhmm. We were at Kubeya for something, and he said, you know, you have all this Japanese porcelain berry? Sounds right. That's right. Yeah. So that that's that's growing there, and that, you know, if you don't take care of it, it's going to eventually overspread the whole park. Mhmm. Mhmm. So, yeah, so we got the quote. Unfortunately, we weren't successful in getting the grant, but it is a modest amount that I think we could probably fund through the the operating budget if we wanted to do so.

So we have a landscape artist. Right?

Landscape architect. Architect. Yes.

And they made recommendations,

right, to They haven't yet. No.

Okay. So And I'm just wondering, do we need to ask them about how this fits with how their vision for the landscaping?

I don't know. They're I mean, they're what a landscape architect is not necessarily just focused on, like, the plants and stuff like that. Right? They're going to be designing, like, the amenities in the park, right, and how that how the whole outdoor area looks. You know, this is an invasive plant that will you know, eventually, if it's allowed unchecked, will kill the native plants and the other the other stuff that's in the park. Do we have the this this issue in other parks? We do. Yes. And I mean Are funding that Yes. For the other parks? Okay. Yeah. So we funded for Kaplan's, for Duck Pond, for Croton Landing.

Feel like there might be one more. Did we contribute on the the five year hydrilla

effort that that's No. That was paid for by the state. 100 percent paid for. Yeah. So, yeah. So we have we've we've been doing the invasive management for about ten years now, and it's been very successful. Mhmm. It's it's significantly reduced a lot of the, phragmites and other, you know, water plants that have really, that were really taking over our wetlands. Mhmm. So it was it's been very it's been a very successful program. Is everybody? So that was $6,222.

I'm not opposed to it. And obviously, I trust what John is saying, but I do hear what Stacy what Trustee Nachtaylor is saying just about having a more holistic maybe approach to how we're dealing with that part of Govea. And I guess, mean, in the overall scope of this $6,000 is not a lot of money. But I wonder if there is some way to, you know, get a better idea of how that fits into everything. If we do that as part of something else, I just don't

it it just seems like there's a better way to approach it than, you know, not looking at how that fits into everything else we're gonna do at Govea.

Well, we can put it in the budget, and then if the you know, not spend it until we have the consultation. We're still waiting for the consultation with landscape architects. So from a timing perspective, we can put it in and

Yeah. Consult. Mean, I I don't it's not I guess I just view it differently because it's right. It's something that is it's not deck it's not we're not putting in decorative plants. Right? I mean, it's this is a this is a

Yeah. Right. This is a For sure. This is dynamic. I mean Yeah. The the invasive species gets a vote, so to speak. Right? Like, it's

They they they control their own timing too.

Yeah. Right. I'm yeah. I guess. I'm just really nervous about fuel costs, honestly. And so I'm really feeling like I wanna be able to have the flexibility to do what I think we're gonna have to do.

Well, we're not I mean, we're not touching contingency. Right? These are this is Of course. These are additions. So Of course. But I just personally, I don't think 17 did you say 17,000? That was what? That was the increase. Yeah. Yeah. I I just I'm really fearful that that's not nearly enough.

So it's making me feel very cautious about all of these smaller additions when we don't know what's gonna happen there, and it's a pretty volatile situation. But for for sure, let's put it in because in I mean, we've seen what not treating invasive species at the arboretum did to it and how Yeah. Much additional work was caused by that. So but I really am concerned about fuel.

Okay. Thank you. Next was team programming in the rec department. Right? We talked about this last evening, so that would be in a $71.40, an additional 5,000. I think everybody's seemed like everybody was okay with with that last night. Are there any other Except maybe Mark, but Except except Mark. I know. Right. I yeah. I hadn't talked

to Mark about it prior to. Yeah. Mark doesn't like surprises. I was gonna say, we don't would Mark's we been here a long time. We know Mark. He's that's not good news. He didn't. Would it help if would it help if we had the teens working on invasive species? Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's a dream project. Yeah. They can drive in the springy bus. We're getting to that that part of the hour.

Okay. And then, lastly, I had an increase in the contingency account of $50,000. So that would bring us from $2.40 to $2.90. That was, you know, for future personnel decisions that the board may wanna make. Yes.

Sure. Mhmm.

Manager, just Yeah. Let me just double check on something on when we were doing the capital, we we did get the the ice machines

in there? Yes. Yep. Yep.

I was not here for the celebrations budget because it was under DPW. Yes. I just wanted to call out, you know, we have historically had a fall fest, and then that sort of morphed into the CBC sponsored Oktoberfest, which I think is, you know, a great event. It is expensive to put on. We've done we've supported that event as a village by providing police service so that the CBC doesn't cover police for that event anymore, which I think is great. I mean, we do. But what we did lose in that was sort of Fall Fest. Yeah. Right? And we talked a little bit about a couple years ago doing, like, a WinterFest or something along those lines of a holiday market or something, and now that the ABC is Yes. Up and running Right. You know, think that there's an opportunity for some celebration Yeah. To happen in the winter time. I was just wondering During the holidays especially.

As long as we've we've had the head of the ABC with us, can we have him greet the board for Sure. You know. And and specifically on the question of, you know, really anything you wanna say, but also with trustee Nicholson's thoughts about some kind of a fall festival and

winter festival. Okay. Yeah. First of all, I I wanna thank everyone for joining up with the ABC. So the Association of Business in is set up so that businesses can

Sorry. Can you just introduce yourself for anyone who's watching?

Yeah. Sorry. I'm Brian from the Association of Business in Croton. I also run Third Universe down on North Riverside Avenue. Thank you. So, yeah, I I wanted to address that, right away because, I really appreciate the village becoming a part of the ABC because, regardless amount of the amount of money you give us, it's going to be spent wisely and with a conservative view on where it's gonna go and how it's gonna be spent, because we wanna make sure that we work with the village. And, you know, honestly, we we want more of the cooperation of the village than any money can supply us. It's really it's really a thing where we wanna build the the community, and that's why we came up with the tagline, rooted in Croton growing together. It's it just makes sense to me to be more involved like I'm here tonight for, to, be more involved with the businesses, get more people to come to Croton, and it's, many attractions because Croton has many more attractions than most places that I I grew up in Yorktown. We only had the park. It's FDR Park. That was the big thing. But here, we have multiple things. So we're planning on running more events in Croton, and and they're gonna be involved with the different businesses, not necessarily gonna be going to a certain area. We'll have an event there. Mhmm. Say the Upper Village when, CBC runs their event, their Oktoberfest. And the people that don't come to that event, we're gonna encourage them to dress a certain way for the event and their own businesses so that the question could be asked when people come through, they don't know about the event. And then we tell them, oh, yeah. There's an event up in the upper village. So people come through the town, not just in one spot. Mhmm. So the idea is to try and get people to come to Croton and enjoy the spaces we already have here and we all enjoy. So we want the we wanna be more inclusive of all the businesses in Croton Mhmm. And make sure that they're represented, just in with our ABC. I've been liking posts from Village. I've been liking posts from different businesses that no. They're not even a part of the ABC. Mhmm. But they're local businesses. So if somebody's coming and and they they go to the florist, then we can introduce this kind of thing to them that, oh, yeah. There's more than just the florist. You can go to the Black Cow, or you can go down to Pronto's and ShopRite and have some pizza or capriccios.

And we wanna represent a lot of different businesses. Videos you've been doing on We've been doing short videos for the businesses who sign up, and then we do a little interview. Now we don't just keep those. We give them to the businesses. That's theirs to cut as they wish. So now they have something, some kind of media to work with so it'll better enhance their business and their reach out into more of a wider audience. Locally targeting Tarrytown, Briarcliff, Sleepy Hollow, Ossining, Peekskill, Cortlandt. So and we we plan on becoming part of the gateway, Hudson Valley Gateway Chamber also as, the Association of Business in Croton. And, yeah. So, when you say we're gonna run an event like a WinterFest or something like that, we're already planning on something with, Caitlin over at Bar in the Hudson to do a wellness by the water event, hopefully down at, Sonosco Park. I I've yet to approach the village about the cost of that, but we will. And, we're hoping to involve more people. They come on bike or whatever. We're making an all day event from, like, six in the morning whenever it opens so that they can do their yoga and stuff like this. And then it'll it'll go into more, like, come on your bike and, you know, you get a special prize or something like that from the different stores in Croton and the different places that we have here and then invite more people. Mhmm. So we're going to make sure that there's different kinds of events, and they may not be huge events. Mhmm. You know, they may not involve, people from the city or some other place. It'll I'm gonna try and get it so that it's more localized. Yeah.

So that's my answer to your question. So we're gonna do far the the the website, the films,

even the mixer that you're doing at the Grand that the ABC is sponsoring at the Grand. Yeah. That's our that's gonna be our first big

thing where we introduce more of ourselves and and hopefully more people will join up. Right now, as of I think we got 13 businesses to sign up, and that includes ours. So that's 12 extra businesses on top of my my own. Writing writing an annual dues check. You know? Yeah. Well, you know, the money's fine, but I'd rather have the people go, hey. I can help out this day. Yeah. And then it's, oh, okay. Good. You know? And, of course, you've got a terrific board as well. What the yes. Everybody on the board has been very supportive. I think I think we are gonna lose Ellen over at the shoe running Croton running because she's she's gonna retire. We're sad to see that because she was a big proponent of the Association of Business and Croton. Mhmm. Thank you. Do you feel the village is

has been effectively monetizing the traffic from The Blaze to drive that type of cross promotion that you're working on? Are there things we

could be? So at the moment, I don't believe that's true because that's why that's partly why we formed to get more of that traffic through Croton, not just from the train station to Croton, to, The Blaze. Yeah. We'd like to include all of the village with that. Right. The shuttle's a big thing about that because then you can shuttle them around town if they have it. Oh, there's because I have people coming to my store right now that are visiting The Blaze, and I don't know if you know this, but it's it's all timed. Yep. So they can't just go Right. If they have a ticket. Right. They have to go at 06:30. Exactly. So they find other places to go. Now if they're on foot, they can only go to that ShopRite Plaza. Right. Pretty much how they're limited. They can go up to the Hudson what do you call it? The bake the bakery that yeah. And and and Baked by Susan's. Susan. They can up go in that that portion of it, but there's no avenue for them to really travel in through Croton. Yep. So we're gonna promote oh, well, we're gonna promote more things. We wanna promote the natural beauty of Croton, which is the dam, Croton Point Park Right. The Landing Mhmm. Sonosco Park. All of these things can be shown to other people, and and it's amazing how many different things they have that we have in Croton that other towns just don't have. That's awesome. Yeah. Gotcha.

Thank you. We hear we hear you all the time. We we were showing Thank you. We we were I was just gonna say we were mayor and I were talking to some folks that were looking at, you know, some of the things in in Croton. And and after we were done, this planner said, wow, Croton has crackle. I said, well well, we're looking for a slope. You know what saying? I mean, we've looked at. We're we're gonna keep going. But it's what you it's what you said, you know, that that there there are all these incredible assets.

Thank you. You bet. Thank you. Thank you.

Miss Major, we I don't know if this was on your list, but and I don't know if it's funding or just tapping into the communication agency and working with the fire department, but that idea of just helping to drive recruitment, retention, and education around lowering the calls to the fire department.

Yeah. I mean, I think I think that's we can use our existing contract with the communications consultant to help with that. You know, I think I was thinking about this after we had that conversation with them, you know, we could, you know, use some of the supply money that we have to maybe, like, purchase a banner that could go at the train station, you know, interested in volunteering, join the fire department, you know, things like that. So I think think we can build some of those things into what we have existing budget for. Yeah. So Okay. So so those were the four potential items that I had listed. Were there any others that anybody wanted to bring up or maybe anything else that I missed? Okay. So

Looks like a good budget.

I I think so. So what is the total increase? So the total well, there was one other sorry. So the the appropriated fund balance, right, in the current budget is set at $600,000, and I know the mayor has asked if that could go if we could move that up to $6.25 Mhmm. Which would reduce the tax levy further. Mhmm. You know, it's still lower than what we used last year. Right? So, I mean, it's still it would still be good in that regard. Mhmm. Yeah. So I don't necessarily see a problem in doing that if you wanted to you wanted to do that. Let's do it. Okay. So that would go from 600 to $6.25 in that appropriated fund balance line. So all of those changes that we just discussed, right, with the revenues, expenditures, and everything, that would result in a tax levy of $13,822,004. So that's $82,543 under the cap. Under the cap. Yep. Wait. Can you say the total again? So the total tax levy is $13,822,004, which would bring us $82,543 under the cap. And, of course, you you'll distribute all these updates before our vote. Yeah. And there could be you know, obviously, there could be minor fluctuations. We have to sometimes the benefit because the benefits all are allocated to the different funds. So if we make a if we make a change here, it may slightly raise or lower the percentages. So if it changes any further, I'll obviously let everybody know before Wednesday. But those those numbers are pretty solid at this point.

In terms of percentages, it would be a 3.54% increase in the levy, but still remaining under the the tax cap obviously because we had a lot of carryover from from the previous year.

And if we determine that we need to increase the police staffing by one person in the I don't know, in at some point in the year, So where that that money would come?

It would have to come from contingency. Right? Because, you know, you don't have it budgeted.

Mhmm.

Now the 82,000 under is with the appropriation of the additional 25 from fund balance. Is that correct? Yes. Okay.

Right. But we can The under was 825,000?

No. We're under by $82,005.43. Okay.

So going back to the $6.25, the the most important not the most important thing, but the first thing I think is, you know, I I appreciate the desire to gradually step down because the aging agent, the rating agencies, their financial analysts wanna see that, but they were okay with a higher, know, historical appropriation. And I am just concerned about the rate at which you make that change. Right? Because what they really don't wanna do is see us go backwards. I think a

you know Yeah. I listen. I'm I'm preserve that possibility. Yes. I'm happy I'm happy. As long as as long as we're showing progress every year, you know, obviously, I would like us to get there sooner, but that's just, you know They wanna see the arrow pointed in the correct Correct. And and then we are. Right? I mean, this at 06:25,

we are still pointing in the right direction. So And then it's also just for context, important to remember that we we borrow this from fund balance. We basically almost always return it and and then and then some. So, you know, it's a way of ensuring that we have a balanced budget when a significant portion of our budget relies on, say, volatile. Volatile makes it sound less stable than it is, but non guaranteed revenue sources. I mean, basically, everything outside of property tax is not necessarily guaranteed.

Subject to outside forces.

Yep. I mean, yeah, just, you know, that's things that are not guaranteed. Right? I mean, if if fuel prices stay elevated, maybe we'd see more people using the train. Yep. Right? I mean, and then that could potentially help us.

So I don't know if it would help us more than we're getting hurt as a consumer of fuel. That's the challenge. Well, yeah. I mean, but we also we

for good or for bad. Right? I mean, we have a state contract price that we pay for fuel. So, you know, which has increased, obviously, as there as all other fuel costs have, but we're not paying the the price you see at the pump. Okay. And then just one one note on the water fund. You know, I spoke with the superintendent today. We would like to add a part time position just it's for a four month period, twenty hours a week to paint some of the fire hydrants. Oh, good. So because they are Very very good idea. Yeah. They're they're they need some After the snow we had. Yeah. They need they need some attention. Yeah. So that that would be a total of $6,400 in the in the water fund. Yep. I'm good with that. Okay. And then just a note still to be determined, you see it's blank on our summary here right now, the supplemental tax bills. So as reminder, supplemental tax bills are properties which are no longer entitled to exemptions. Mhmm. They get a a supplemental tax bill. Right? You know, for example, if you owned a house and you had a veteran's tax exemption, and in July, you sell your house, and now somebody moves in who's not a veteran, they're not entitled to keep that exemption. So we generate a tax bill from the date, the month the start of the month after the sale through the end of the fiscal year. Mhmm. So so we have to calculate based on the information we get from the town assessor's office. We calculate those bills, which the deputy treasurer is gonna be doing tomorrow. So I should have that number tomorrow.

So Well, thank you manager and treasurer and and both of your teams for a a great work on this budget. Thank you. Thank you. And what so what percent is the unassigned,

unrestricted? Where are we based on these new numbers? I know we aim to be in the 17% to 25%

range. Yeah. I mean, I could I don't have that exact percentage. I can have that for Wednesday. Okay. But, I mean, we're definitely within We're comfortable with we're definitely within the range. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Yep.

And the next steps with this? So the next steps are that at Wednesday's board meeting, 'll have a number of resolutions to adopt the budget. Right? You're gonna you'll have one resolution to formally adopt the budget. You'll have one resolution to adopt the master fee schedule. You'll have a resolution to place the unpaid water bills, snow bills, fire inspection bills, all those all those bills that are unpaid that can be relevied. You'll have a resolution to add those to people's tax bills. You'll have a resolution for the mayor to sign the tax warrant, which is a requirement. And I miss I think there's five. I feel like I'm missing one. Mhmm. But they're all just they're all formal resolutions that we have to adopt every year that just implement the implement the budget. So and it gives it gives the public one final opportunity to comment,

yeah, on anything. Sorry. When the building permit fees Oh, thank you. Yes. Where did where do we land on that? Are we gonna increase it to 25,

or do we do we need to discuss that? We yeah. We definitely we should discuss it. So let's, let me just bring that up here. Thank you. I forgot about that. You did all that work. Thank you doing that. Forgot about it. Yes. Alright. So so I emailed this to the board shortly before the meeting. I looked at a number of a number of villages in the area as well as the town of Cortlandt. It's kind of a little all over the place. Mhmm. Some places do have different commercial commercial and residential rates. Other places don't. What was what was really the the theme overall though is that most places just have a dividing line in terms of the fee. That if the fee is under a million dollars, let's just say they pay one rate, and if it's over a million dollars, they pay a different rate. And we actually have a three tiered system where if it's under 200,000, you pay one rate. If it's under 500,000, you pay one rate. And then if it's over 500,000, you pay a third rate. So I think in terms of simplifying things, might be nice to get rid of that, get rid of one of those steps.

Yeah.

You know, but like, for example, Pleasantville had was pretty similar to us in that they have residential at, $15. It's a $100 for the first thousand plus $15 for each thousand thereafter, and then commercial is double. It's a 100 for the first 1,000 plus 30 for every thousand thereafter. Cortlandt had it doubled in the beginning, $1.50 for residential up to 10,000, 300 for commercial up to 10,000, and then did, for residential, $10 per 1,000 over 10,000, and then $12 per 1,000 over 10,000 for commercial. Briarcliffe was not broken down by residential and commercial, but they were for any any construction under a million, it was $27.50 per 1,000. They're the most expensive. And then, anything over a million, it was $17.50 per 1,000. So everybody else was kind of like Sleepy Hollow and Tarrytown are both $20 per 1,000. Buchanan is $17 per 1,000. Mhmm. And then Ossining is, 12. Mhmm. So Ossining has always been the They have so much more

Yeah. Yeah. They're much yeah. Commercial revenue too. Yeah. Or multifamily revenue So, to pull

I think I mean, I think I think we're fine with going with 20 to and 25, if that's what we wanted to do. But I think maybe we just say, instead of having the 200,000 and the 500,000 and then the above, we just get rid of the 200,000 and just say, it's $20 up to 500,000, and then it's $15 over 500,000. That would be residential. Mhmm. Right? And then we could say, for commercial, $25 per 1,000 up to 500,000, and then so it would be $20 per 1,000 over 500,000.

That makes sense. Yeah. Well, that that'll help

the engineering department Yeah. In their work. So Yep. That's good.

Okay. But the $20 on the higher side, is that higher than where we were originally? Sorry. I would wait. So

so no. So the the $20, that was what was proposed in the it's higher than what it is now, but that's the $20 is what was in the proposed budget. Gone. Yeah.

But you're recommending that we go to 20 that we stay at 20 if it's over 500,000?

For commercial.

I I think we need to be higher than what it was.

That it it that is high. I mean Yeah. So sorry. So what I Sorry. Yeah. So what I had so for residential, right, it was what was originally proposed was $20 per 1,000 up to 200,000, and then 17 per 1,000 up to 500,000, then 15 per 1,000 above that. So I'm basically saying get rid of the 17 and just say $20 per 1,000 up to 500,000, then 15 per 1,000 after that. And then for commercial, it would be it was originally proposed at 22 per 1,000 up to 200,000, then 19 per 1,000 up to 500,000, then 17 per 1,000. So I'm saying go from 22 to 25,

and then 17 to 20.

Okay. Yes. Thank you. Yep. No problem. I know. It's a lot of it's a lot of numbers. A lot of numbers. No intermediate tier. Correct. It would just be it would we'd be eliminating that middle tier Yeah. Of between 200,500. We're Okay. We're streamlining. Exactly. Yeah. Sure. So

Okay. Thank you very much, Valerie. Reminder.

Just what we're done with it. Stop there. Alright. I'm out and out. Need a new tab. I need to bring my glasses.

Alright. Are we gonna go into exec session? Yes. Do I have a motion to go into executive session?

So moved.

Alright. Motion by trustee Simon, second by trustee...