At a meeting of y^ Councill m New York y^ 17ti» day of ffeb^ 1713 Present

Coll : Depeyster M^" Van Dam

Doctor Staats M"" Barberie

Capt. Walters M^ Phillips

At ye Request of M'^ Vesey tliis Board sent for & Examined severall persons all relateing to y^ late outrages Committed in Trinity Church & to ye abuses alleadged by M'^ Vesey in his petition to be Committed ag* him as by y^ Exammations of Robert Dnmimond & Anne his wife Richard Willett & Thomas ffell.

DEPOSITIONS.

Robert Drummond of y^ City of New York Vintner beaeing sworn upon ye holy Evangelist & Examined Deposeth and saith as foUoweth, That about ye latter End of December last, M"" Lawrence Smith being at this Depones house, and upon some discourse had betweene the said M^" Smith and one Mary Guest then Nurse to this Depont^ "Wife, being a quaker about Religion, the said M"* Smith told her that if she would give him Twenty shillings he would turn quaker, and swore heartilly to it, and .hen she asking him why he did not goe to Churcli, he Reply ed

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that he had noe Chiu-ch to goe to for that M'' Sliarpe was gone and as for M*" Vesey lie said he was avillaine &a Rascall because he Espoused his Brother PhiUips Cause in an ill thing, and that Mr Vesey had proposed to send word to my Lady Hay that his Excellency our Governour had to doe with Liev' Riggs wife and that it might have occasioned my Lady to loose her child and said that it was better my Lady should loose her Child than one of ye Brethren should suffer and said ye said M^" Vesey in time should Kepent it.