Planning Board Meeting

Alright. Good evening. I will call the, Village of Croton on Hudson planning board meeting for Tuesday, 01/13/2026 to order. First item on the agenda is a new business item. Can you use Roseanne, please?

Can use your microphone?

I think we have a microphone on. You can't hear me? Yeah. Is that better? That's much better. Thank you. Alright. Sure. Thank you. The first item on the agenda is a new business item, Roseanne McDonald, 43 Riverview Trail accessory cottage application.

Hey. How are you? I'm well. Thank you. How are you? Good. Good. I'm Dean Borelli with Westchester Modular Home. And, I believe you have the paperwork in front of but if you need I I have a color version of the elevations elevations in the floor. Do you see it?

I think we have the paperwork. You have the paperwork? Right.

So it's a it's it's an ADU that we're putting in at 43 Riverview Trail. It's gotten all the necessary variances approved, front yard setback height, and then, front door. So we are just pending your approval.

Okay. So can you tell us a little bit about the application and where you've been and where you stand.

Well, where we've where we've been, you wanna build a more specific on that, where we've been. We have, been before the Zoning board. Yep. The zoning board. I I have to apologize because it's my, my partner was actually the one heading up this, but he's actually down in Austin right now. So I'm stepping in, so you have to figure Could out you pull the microphone a little closer to you, please? Sure. Thanks so much. Okay. Is that good? Little better. So, my partner was the one handling, this this property on 43 Riverview, Trail. So, but I am familiar with what's happening here. There's an existing kind of cottage that's dilapidated and kinda in in very, very bad shape. And we, had met with the clients, and she'd like to replace it and and put a new structure in there. And so, we're going through all the necessary protocols ensuring that we're in the same footprint of where the old cottage was. And, you know, obviously, codes have changed since that cottage was put up, and so we had to go through zoning to ensure we had all the necessary, variances in place. Most importantly, they were the the height variance that we had to get and the, the front yard setback. And then at the eleventh hour, we were notified after we got those variances. We're about to come forth before you guys. We were notified that they we needed to get a front door variance. There's a little discrepancy in the code. It specifically speaks to, front door not being allowed on, apartments, not specific to cottages. And, you know, the code does make a variation between the two. But then when it came to specifically on the front door, it spoke specific to apartments. So we had thought maybe we don't need to do this. Well, to on the side of caution, we came went back for the variance earlier or I'm sorry, last week, got the front door variance. And so that's where we are now. We are prepared

to begin having, the the my client's gonna have the the demolition done, gonna apply for the demo permit, and have the the company come in and ensure that all the disconnects are in place and everything is done according to, standards.

What was the height variance that you needed for the zoning board? Three feet. Three feet. For a total height of what?

I think it was 20 I got it right. We needed it. It was shown it's eighteen three. So it was three foot three inches. It's a the building height's fifth supposed to be 15. We asked for three foot three inches, and we're granted. Thank you.

Yep.

And you had a setback variance as well granted. Correct. And the front door variance was for that to be

visible from the road. Right? Correct. It's the end of a dead end street. No pass through traffic. It was a front door facing before, and it's a vast improvement. And that was granted as well? That's that's right, your honor. Yeah. Sir. I like I'm in court.

Have a question. On the application under, about a third of the way down, it asks, does the owner of the types listed above reside in or will reside in one of the dwelling units as their primary residence? And there was no answer. Yes or no. Yes. Yes. I've it's for both, for the primary residence and for the ADU. Okay. Thank you. So wait a The the the primary owner is gonna live in both?

Primary owner and her daughter. And and her daughter. I got her. Okay. Family. I live in the primary house. My daughter's gonna move in. Being that I am older, my daughter's a nurse. Me too. If I should need the help, she'll be there.

Gotcha. Thank you.

And was the previous building, the cottage, used as a residential use?

No. It was just It's gone again. It hasn't been used in thirty years. Let's put it that way. It's been in bad shape in thirty years. But or I I I I use. Everything's touch. Originally, it was used.

Would you sit back down, please?

Yep. I was gonna That's my daughter. She can When

when you're recognized, then you can come up and speak.

Originally, it was. When it's was first put up, it was used. It had its own meter. It had everything right there. It had its own plumbing. Everything was set. It was, used for that. But, like like like my client said, it had been vacated for quite some time now. Okay.

So if you would like to, say anything.

No. You you okay.

Thank you. So, looking at the pictures of the site, we see there's some, propane tanks out in front of, of the building. That will be disconnected.

The propane has already disconnect the line, and I'll have someone take the propane tank away. Perfect. Thank you.

So you'll bring in a modular home, by crane and drop it in there? How would that work? Yeah. It's exactly it.

That's it. When you come in with it, it's gonna be in two two modulars, two boxes, if you will. Okay. Yeah. Because it's now getting down that road and we can only go. Why? Overhead wires that you're worried about? None to be concerned there. No. And the disconnects gotta get done to the cottage anyhow, so there'll be no no wires in the way. Okay.

And utilities going into the structure. You've got water sewer,

electric or gas or weed? Correct. It's gonna be electric and water sewer. Correct. That's existing? That's already It's already there. Yeah. It's already there. We're gonna verify everything. We have to scope it and make sure that, the source is clear. But, yeah, it is on the, it is on sewer, so it's great.

And the existing driveway for for both residences?

Yep. Well, there's an existing driveway on the primary residence. This will have a little parking On the side? Area right right by the cottage. Yes.

Well, actually, you're you're establishing a new parking area, it looks like, from the plant. It's already there.

It's just not been used. Yeah. It it's there. It's a hard pan. It'll be gravel. I

see.

Which is concrete washout on the proposed site plan? What is that?

It's temporary erosion control measures? Correct. It's exactly what it is. Okay. So that's for construction only? Yeah. Correct. Correct. For the concrete so they dispose of it properly. When they dispose of the concrete after whatever's left over. Yep.

Thank you.

And I see that there's a retaining wall and grading and or not grading. Let's say,

contour shown. Those are all existing contours? Yeah. That's all existing in the back there. Yep. That's there's existing, retaining wall there, and you can see the elevation start to rise in back. Hence, the reason why the the height requirement we needed, was to lift it up a little bit.

Okay.

And the square footage of the proposed

700.

Just it's Yeah. It's about 750 square 50. So within our 800 square feet. Yeah. It's a three eight eight hundred.

Although, on your plan, it says living area 800 square feet. Yeah. Which yet to be determined how we're gonna use a little piece of that space whether it be finished or not, but it's under 800 in total.

It'll be under 800 square feet in total. What little area are you referring to? Like,

if if there's gonna be a it's I guess, the the steps going into the crawl space or not and whether they're gonna count that, it's not technically a finished space that's crawling going on. So so I'm not quite sure how we're gonna finish that if it's just gonna be a hatch or so I I don't it's still gonna be under 800 square feet. So it's like a

a small English basement? Correct.

Correct.

That's not living space. It's not living space. Right.

So we had draft resolution in our packet, and then there was a new one. It looks like Revise. Was revised. One more thing. Yeah. I was just asking I'm sorry. What the revisions were on the on that.

It it was just the the additional variance that was granted for the front door.

Thank you.

Go ahead. In terms of the I think that might have been two different things going on. The revision of the minutes did not have to do with that. They just touched it up a bit and made clear that it's they're also getting minor site plan approval as well with these accessory cottages. So those that's the answer to that question. Okay. Thank you. Go ahead, Steve.

I see you've got some floodlights on the outside, which is perfectly normal. I would just ask that you have the kind of shades that throw the light down and don't scatter light out in a 180 degree direction. Yep. Thank you.

Talk about number three on here. Resolution.

So I'm looking at, like, two different resolutions. That's why I was asking the

title three. And which one Looks like we may ask to consider. On the desk tonight.

Yeah. That was on the third, thirteen minutes. Yeah. I I compared the two and they just the wording was a bit rearranged. Some of paragraphs rearranged from the original that we got Okay. In our packet. So the number three that you're referring to is what? Still should be number three on the new resolution.

K. So the three the colors is one, colors and materials, and the other one is that the section of the village code. Correct. So which one are you referring to? Well,

this would be about fee in lieu of Parkland.

Therefore, requires a payment. That's yeah. Yeah. This is talked about in the past. Right? With ADUs? I'm still confused. Like, which one are we what's happening? There's two different resolutions drafts that and I don't know which one we're actually supposed to be referring to.

Accessory card instruction with. Granted.

This one is longer. So this is the new one that came on our desk tonight. So that's not the same number three that you're referring to. Here's here's number three. Yeah. That about materials

and colors. Like it should be four. This is the Parkland. That doesn't have a number.

Alright. So this should be Four. Renumbered?

Yeah. So this is three numb before this should be four. And that's okay. And that should be four should be only. That then the

part part think. Okay. Thing. This should be Economic development. I'm it might see if I can Yep. Alright. Yep.

And then everything below that becomes six, seven, eight. Yeah.

We moved through that. It's not good. So this

is So go ahead. Sorry. Well, number four. We gotta talk about what we wanna do there. So,

refresh. Vincent, maybe you can refresh our memory. What what is the fee?

I think it's $12,000.

12,000? As far as I as far as I know. What was the outcome? We had a whole discussion about that. We we've talked about these for each one has come up, since this was enacted. And our our approach has been in each one of these is that this fee is for In lieu of parkland. Contributing to the pop because this contributes to the pop population growth and no suitable land is available for on on the site for a park. Right. Therefore, they need to pay this fee. And our approach on ADUs up to this point Been to waive

Right. And I that's right. I was suggesting maybe we modify it, but I think the board or we decided that it wasn't in our purview to modify it. It was just a binary decision of yes or no. Yes.

I believe I think that's how I re recall that as well.

There was no answer. I don't recall an answer either. So

how do we feel about that? Well, we got two of these tonight. Same situation. It sounds like the additional population is gonna be the daughter moving into there. And I don't know if that represents a a big taxing of a parkland park use. So, you know, if if we're encouraging ADUs considering that that fee would represent a large percent of the overall cost of of the modular home. You know, my sense is that we've have a bit of a precedent that we've set in these past accessory cottages, not apartments, accessory cottages, and that my sense is we in this case, it our past thinking still applies.

I agree with that.

I agree as well. So any other discussion on that?

I don't necessarily agree, but I'm willing to go along with a herd on this one, particularly because we've done it in the past. So it would seem inconsistent to suddenly reverse course. I still believe what I said earlier that I would hope that the board, the board trustees will decide to either give us give us some latitude or themselves modify the fee in a more appropriate

manner. This is up to us to decide. We can decide on the amount?

Yeah. Really? Is that accurate, Vincent?

I would refer to the lawyer on that one. I don't believe so, but I can call him up since we can't get them on the Zoom right now if you wanna call in. I thought I understood it to be a the the sort of binary

That's what I That's right. We can either waive it. We can either waive it or or or it is what It's either 12,000 or nothing. Correct. Right. Right. So If you all feel it's appropriate to waive it, you know, I I understand that. And, like I said, I don't wanna disturb precedent. I just wish there were some middle ground that was available to us, which it sounds like there's not. So so so be it.

I agree with you on the middle ground or having some kind of latitude for the board to be able to deal with it. But since we don't, I would say that, I would like to suggest that we strike the number four on the on the thing or or make it so that the planning board does not require payment of the applicant

for

the fee in lieu of Parkland.

And if I could add because we know there's gonna be other ADU applications coming before us after tonight, I would ask the building department to, nudge the board trustees to kinda at least review that for an answer as to whether we can have middle ground going forward. All. Yep.

Thank you. And just a suggestion for the board, if I may, I'd because I deal with this quite a lot. A lot of times what's taken into consideration is the use of the ADU and when it's family because the impetus is being that we wanna keep the taxpayers who built this town to what it is and mosTeatowns to what they are in the their in their town, not force them out. And, you know, if a family member is usually living in those ADUs, like, my I live in Connecticut, but the reason they allow it without any type of fees is simply for that. They wanna keep the families. If it's gonna be a rental, sometimes it's considered for for an additional fee. So for what it's worth, just for the board. Mhmm.

Point well made. I mean, I think the the issue for us is often that it could be presented as a Yeah. A family member and then become a rental the next month. True. True. For whatever reason, I'm not suggesting that that's the case here, but but that is the the dilemma that we deal with on an ongoing basis. And so, you know, many times people are not necessarily presenting false information. They're just their circumstances change or their however it comes down that it it it actually is not the case going forward, and we don't regulate that. So Yeah. Gotcha. So that's where it seems that maybe there's a I think this board has already, weighed in on, our feelings about this fee and it that it seems to be a $12,000 fee on a small building like this seems to be onerous to past applicants, and they voiced their concerns about it. And so we have as well. We appreciate that. That's where I would suggest that we waive it in this case.

Yes.

Any other, thoughts or comments? Have you guys had a chance to review the resolution?

I've reviewed it briefly. Yes. I did. So

I would entertain a motion on on the resolution.

K. Motion to approve the accessory cottage application for 43 Riverview Trail

With the the change. Amended Yeah. I'm sorry. With the Component of amendment of striking the

what is item four referring to payment in in fee in lieu of Parkland.

Alright. Do you have a second?

Yes. Second.

Second? Okay. All in favor?

It's part of the change in ownership.

We have, actually. So Steve brought up a good point, and it's really just a reminder. It's part of the resolution that would be it's listed on here as number seven. We kinda renumbered them as number eight, but it talks about a change of ownership. And that upon a change of ownership, should the new owner desire to continue the accessory apartment or accessory cottage use in this case, The new owner shall provide notification to the building department confirm confirming the new owner will reside in the premises as required, and that they are aware of the laws regarding accessory apartments and accessory cottages will remain in and will remain in compliance. Such, notice shall be provided within ninety days of change of ownership. Failure to timely file will result in a revocation of the accessory apartment or accessory cottage approval, and the new owner will have to make a new application. So should you, you know, sell the land, you need to make sure that you take those steps to provide the new owner with that information.

Thank you. Alright.

Good luck with your project. Thank you very much. Thank you.

So the next item is a new business item as well. James Corbett, 284 Grand Street, also accessory cottage application.

Hi. Hi. Hello. So if you could introduce yourselves and tell us your

I'm, Bob Small. I'm the, builder. James Corbett, homeowner.

Okay. You wanna tell us about your project?

We are doing a garage conversion, for mister Corbett's, in laws to live in in the summer when they come and visit. It's an existing structure that we're going to, bring to code. It's meets all the zoning requirements, the setbacks, and, the other requirements. We have a sewer line running through about five feet from the ADU, and we're gonna bring the water inside the existing house. Sorry. Say that again, please. Oh, we have a sewer line, about five feet in front of the ADU. It runs through the backyard, And the water, we're gonna run inside the house connect to the house.

And utilities

or electric? Electric will go to the house.

Okay. So tell us about the, is it is it a demo? Is it a just a modification?

Tell us what you have to do for to meet code. So the roof rafters are two by sixes. We have to build them down. The walls are two by fours. We have to fur them out, for spray foam. Egress windows in the bedroom, you know, smoke and CO two detectors. You know, basically, it will be a new house when we're when we're done with it. So the footprint stays the same? Yes.

Okay. And it's it's a, what, a two car garage? Or Yes. Okay. And how many bedrooms you're gonna have? One one bedroom and a little

open office. Right. Yeah.

So on your application where it says, is an existing accessory building being converted into an accessory cottage, you've checked no?

I think that the yeah. They also said that they're applying for accessory apartment. I think that was just, like, the language might have been confused between accessory apartment and accessory Cottage. I think that might be the case. Because I also for the record, my memo is also Oh, no. I'm sorry. It does. So

You did check. Yes. Yeah. Sorry.

So it should say on the application, it should say Accessory Cottage.

Yes. It's like he should have checked off Accessory Cottage. Do do you have a copy of the plans? I got the application up on the screen right there. So they're talking about just like this area here. Should've just checked off this, but Yeah. Not a huge deal. It's just different terminology. It can get confusing.

So we're zoning compliant, I guess.

Yeah. There's a copy of the Yes.

There's no zoning issues with this one. K. It's an existing cottage, so they're allowed to convert it to accessory cottage.

The colors were gonna match the existing house. The existing house was just remodeled, so it has new siding and new roofing, and we're gonna use the same as the house.

Okay. And we're, we would be at 499 square feet of habitable area. So we're within the guidelines for an ADU. Yep. Appears to be a pretty straightforward application.

Yep.

Any thoughts, John, Eva?

No. Like you say, this seems like an oh. Don't see anything Yep. That would be a flag or anything like that.

Seems like an easy one. Looking at Google Earth. That's all. Yep. Yep.

Alright. Well, we have a draft resolution before us, which has sort of all the standard

clauses. Well, how about the in lieu of Parkland? Yep.

We have the same issue within lieu of Parkland. Yep. So that would be number three on this application. Right?

Yep.

So I guess I would put forth that we, would waive the, fee in Little Parkland, for this application as well.

Was there a fee, before?

So, the village code provides for a a fee at the discretion of the planning board for accessory cottages for Parkland. And and we've we've kind of voiced our disagreement, if you will, with the the fee. It's $12,000 for nothing. Wow. So it's quite significant. And and we've written a memo to the village board asking them for some degree of latitude because it seems to be a the attorneys told us that it's either a well, it's not a moving target. It's either 0 or $12,000. Yeah. So That's significant. In in cases like this, it seems like that would be a fairly significant

Over under 500 square feet, $12,000.

Of the, you know, the cost of of doing this project. And if we're encouraging these projects, then then that would certainly seem to be a discouragement of the project. So the past the last application, we waived the fee, and the suggestion here is that we waive the fee for this application. And and, hopefully, there will be I mean, we don't we're not necessarily in in disagreement that there should be money provided for Parkland. It just seems like on some of these applications like this one, I would say, it seems to be a little bit, well, onerous in terms of the amount. Yeah. And and and maybe there would be an amount that would be more appropriate, but

that seems like That's well put. I mean, it's not unreasonable to ask for new residents to contribute to, Parkland in our community for the benefit of everybody. But as you said, the amount as it is now is onerous.

Could be could be based on construction cost.

It could be based on a number of things. It could be based on square footage. Yeah. But some way to some criteria that seems more fair than all or nothing as as Rob put it, it's it's it's onerous. We're just looking for the middle ground. And and,

similarly, there are applications that have come before us for what we call accessory apartments, which are a carve out of an of a existing home, whereby they we provide an apartment within the home, and and there is no fee for Parkland on those applications provided. So it seems a little bit out of out of sync, at least in our board's opinion on the last several that we've seen. So Mhmm. Suggest that we strike that one. Yep. So someone like to make an a motion on the application. John, please. Approve the application.

Forget what number it is. With with number three

strike. Eliminate number three. Okay. Okay. Anybody wanna second that?

Sure. Second.

Eva? Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Alright.

done 12 in Connecticut and none in New York yet. What's that? I've done 12 in Connecticut and none in New York yet.

It's interesting. I know that it's become quite a thing in Mass as well.

Mass is every a town in Mass is approved except for Boston.

Yeah. I've been hearing about that. Know where he's at. Yeah.

So come check it out. Thank

you. I'll grab it. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is an old business item, mirage mirror and glass, 425 South Riverside Avenue, final signage approval.

Can we ask a question or a vague statement about that? About what? 425 South Riverside since it directly we directly enjoyed that property.

Is there anyone here, to

They never received It's really just a question about what's written in in the resolution. Resolution. So if you wanna come on up, please, and, state your name and address

and then absolutely. Okay.

Do we have My name is Constancia Warren, and I live at Number 1 Young Avenue, which overlooks that property.

I'm Bruce Dollar. I also live at 1 Young Avenue. Bruce Dollar. So

in the resolution, the original application was not from Carmel Riverside. Carmel Riverside is a development company, and they've spoken to all of us who adjoined that property about their plans to develop that property. So my question has to do with your third whereas about it not being subject to environmental quality review for the sign. Is that simply for the sign or does that cover any other environmental quality review? Just for the sign. It's just for the sign. Yeah. Yeah. So that if they're gonna go forward with their plans to develop the property, there would need to be a full environmental review. That's that's coming in the works,

but that's not before the board at this meeting. In a few months or so, they'll probably be before the board, and they'll they'll have much more, requirements and

Will the residents who adjoin that property get more than, like, seventy two hours notice? Yeah. You'll definitely be able to see the documents with enough Yeah. You get two weeks two weeks notice you should get. Yes. Okay. Yep. Because on this one, there's only a couple of days notice. This does call for some landscaping. Is that just limited to the front of the building in Right.

Right. This is just about the sign.

An oversight. So there's a few conditions.

We asked that they come back to take a look at the sign, and we sent the old resolution back to the property owner saying that these conditions have not been met.

Before us today, it's just for the final approval of the sign. I saw that they're before the board for today right now.

They're not actually here before the board. Can

we see the sign? Yeah.

Please? Yeah. The picture of the sign was in the materials.

And how does the sign re how does the sign relate to an environmental review?

It's it's just noted that the environmental review isn't required for this particular aspect. But once he comes in with the development plans, there's a whole different procedure that will take place and other requirements that he has to adhere to. So you'll be you'll get the notice, neighbor notice as requirement to be heard for the board. So you'll get that as well when Okay. So this application has to do

with this particular app, you know, business being there. Yeah. And it doesn't have anything to do with redeveloping the property. And so any sort of redevelopment of the property would be a separate Okay. Issue, a separate review. Sure. They would produce a a site plan that they would then make an application on, and it and it it wouldn't have any bearing on the signage for this particular application right now. It would be a and we've actually seen previous proposals for this property in the past, and it's a it's a that's a whole other process that has nothing to do with the signage application for tonight. But you certainly would get you know, I mean, would be you should look out for any sort of application that happens on that property given that you have an interest in it. And Yeah. And notice would be

I read all the agendas and look at all the materials. What's that? I said I look at all the the agendas and and read all the materials. I mean, I I am on the watch for it, but I've also been aware that the amount of notice that we get is is is limited. What you say is is in the fee my understanding from what you're saying is that if we adjoin it, that we would we would be entitled to get a little bit more advanced notice than just the public

posting of the agenda. Exactly. Yes. So when that comes up for the site plan approval, they have to the mailing the neighbor mailing note notifications are requirement. So you'd get a a letter in your mail ten days before. Ten days before. Yeah. Okay. And that type of development, correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't that eventually trigger a public hearing? Yeah. Public hearing, Seeker's gonna Seeker's gonna be a thing. It's a whole process. It's gonna be a lot going on with that. Okay. So I'm not there yet. You won't not know about it.

Yeah. Right. I promise. Okay. Thank you. That's all. May I ask you a question? Is that like a mirror image of the storefront?

Think the picture I think it's just a picture of it. Let me see if I took another one. It's the south end of the building. Right?

Yes. I I thought you were trying

Thanks. On the Zoom. Thank you, Josh.

I was listening the whole time.

Okay. Welcome.

How is everyone? Good. Thank you. I thought the doors are closer to Van Cortlandt Manor. And on the left on the northern end of that

was the dance the dance door. Right. This is the opposite end of the building. It's already left there. Could I It used to be empty. The actual Right. Right.

Rob, there's another

question. Is there a comprehensive

Excuse me.

Planning master plan for Croton-on-Hudson? You don't know the archer?

So I'm not going to address you right now unless you would like to come up and introduce yourself and entertain

A question.

We're in the middle of another piece of business.

This is a quick question. I wonder because I don't know. I'm Barry Donaldson. I live here in Croton for a number of years. And I

Just your address, please.

See what you all do.

Barry, what is your address, please? You said you live in Croton for a number of years. What's your residence? What's your address?

Oh, I live on 14 King Street.

Thank you. Yes. Sure.

This related just here tonight because I'm interested in seeing what you all do.

Oh, I don't think so. We're in the middle of a A piece of business here. So if you'll excuse me. I'm sorry I asked you up because I thought you were addressing what we were talking about.

I am.

It doesn't seem like it.

I am addressing you.

I know. You're not addressing the issue that we have before us right now. If you would please go back and sit down, then I will ask you to come up after we finish with this piece of business.

Gee. I'm really sorry. I bothered you. Thanks. I see you're so busy.

So I just if you mind, I just they all moved. Just so you understand, if we haven't noticed, any type of public comment section, the public doesn't know that they could come up and talk about anything. It's usually whatever the specific agenda is enumerated, you'd have if it's a public hearing, comments on that. Even if even notice there's a public hearing. So I was just sorry I'm late. Normally, I'd be jumping in and Not a problem. Talking about all of this stuff as we go along, but I was waiting for the Zoom. It didn't work. So

Alright. So let's try and deal with the matter that we have in front of us, is Mirage Mirror and Glass and their final sign approval.

Here it is. And this is just a reflection of, like, the wires street wires. So that's not actually part of the sign. Could could you repeat that? It's not You see this like, if you could see this line right here Yes. It's just a reflection from the picture of, like, the overhead telephone lines. Oh, I see. It's not part of the sign? No. It's not part of the sign. Okay.

So and the VEB

addressed this issue and gave us a memo? Yeah. They they gave positive feedback on that on this one. I don't know where's their memo exactly. Let me see. Viewed your sign permit, made some design suggestions based on the revised photographs you submitted today. The images are consistent with the advisory board and the visual environment suggestion. Therefore, a signed permit is issued today to approve your signs.

So the permit was issued. And they're not there's no changes we have to contemplate that they're recommending?

Yeah. This is what they installed is what Dan in this memo gave a permit for, but they missed the step of coming back for approval.

Alright. Will you take a motion?

Yes. Motion to approve the, Mirage Mirror glass sign as we're looking at it and as previously reviewed by the VEB.

Second.

All in favor? Aye. Okay.

Alright. Alright. Why don't you ask that gentleman to come back up so we can get him finished? Sure. So,

mister Donaldson, we're finished with this piece of business. If you would like to come up and address the board, we would entertain any comments that you have right now.

You have the time?

I wouldn't have invited you up here if I didn't.

I was just asking simply if there is a comprehensive master plan for the town of Croton that establishes areas of consideration for growth, both commercial and residential, areas of growth for natural landscaping, and something to be done for the crappy condition of Main Street.

So we do have a comprehensive plan, and, it's on file with the engineering department. And you'd be more than welcome to come in and and review it. Or it may even be online. I'm not sure. But, yes, there is a plan. Online.

Thank you.

You're welcome. Alright. So our next item is the minutes, draft minutes from twelve 09:20 twenty five.

Just for the record, mister chairman, it is under public documents and comprehensive plans on the website. Mhmm. And there's the last three.

Okay. Thank you. Couple of comments on the minutes. Yes, please. I may. Karen, I'll give this to you. I just wanted to add something to that first paragraph where I was citing my conversation with Russ Davies. I wanted to add to the end of that first paragraph due to the fact that the only subjects discussed were already part of the public record. I'm gonna hand this to you in a moment though, Karen. Make it easy for you. And in the second paragraph, I'm not sure what the phrase over a little means in that one, two, three, fifth fifth wind down. Said, I couldn't either. So So should we put it in quotes maybe then? Okay. Well, no. I mean, what what

are we trying to say here, though? Retrain retaining wall, I will I'll read the sentence. When asked to talk about the changes to his project, the applicant said that after the house was put up, he started work on the landscaping and retaining wall contoured over a little. I guess what we're trying to say is due to the site conditions. Yeah. It moved slightly. Yep. That's what you meant. Essentially. Yeah. Yeah.

So maybe we say Can we change contour to be moved?

I mean It it was yeah. It was moved slightly. Might be Yeah. The wording.

Thank you, Jeff. Was moved slightly? Because of the contours of the land, the retaining wall had to be moved slightly. That's perfect. Something like that. Yeah. Okay.

That was the context. Yeah. Could you pass this down to Karen, please? Make her life easy. My my earlier comment. Thanks, guys.

Okay. I'm just under, section three approval of minutes. We say draft minutes September 16. That should be November 4.

Anybody else have anything? Yes.

Please? Excellent.

Page two, third paragraph. Knowing what e is by name. You

had it right the other time. That is a big one, John. You're right.

I have a back on page one, I have a question to at the bottom of that paragraph we were just talking about. So but while the north side wall has been built closer to the property line than originally approved, is that the wall of the house or the wall of the the

It's I mean, it's a wall. The out the

The retaining wall. Retaining wall. That's the retaining wall? Yeah. Maybe why don't why we put that in because I have there was discussion of the difference between where the walls of the the building envelope had the the house and that the there were not the same requirements for the retaining walls.

I don't have any other comments on the minutes. Mhmm.

Yeah. Motion. Motion to approve the minutes with the changes we've just enumerated.

Second that. All in favor?

Aye.

Aye. Alright.

Before you adjourn were you about to adjourn? Go ahead. I just wanted to ask, Karen and Vincent if we had I thought we had talked about we were gonna have, like, a an item each time on our agenda for, an engineer report or questions or that type of thing. So

if we have an opportunity to, maybe we could do that now. Yeah. I don't think we're gonna put in actually, like, officially on the agenda, but I can give a brief update on a couple things. Not too much detail, but first off, 04/25, they're planning on coming back. Okay. They're coming in with a 49 unit building, so that's gonna be a big application.

Oh, my gosh.

Just just a a quick clarification. We talked about this a little bit. And the worry with with an engineer's report or something along those lines is when it gets to be a give and take without notice to applicants, we worry about that. So as long as you're ask getting updates and Vinny's just direct giving you information,

that's We're aware. Yeah. We're aware. Thank you for that. Okay. Absolutely.

So that one's coming. Be ready for that. Another big item that appears to be big is 1360 Albany Post Road. Got an email twenty minutes before the meeting from the applicant there confirming that they had been in touch with the DOT. This is the design center, you're This is the design center. Yes. So they have been in touch with DOT and they informed me that DOT is gonna be reaching out to me. So hopefully, there's another update, small update on that also next month. But it seems that they're addressing the situation.

Can I add something? Just to alert my colleagues that the CAC is beginning to work on, dark sky's code potentially for Croton. We're in the process of reviewing the codes from Yorktown, Cortlandt, and others so as to make a comprehensive recommendation that, I guess, would go to the board of trustees and then eventually filter down to us for review and comment. That's all. This is part of my liaison role to CAC. That's it. Okay.

And alright. Think I we're adjourned. Thank you, everybody. Thanks. Thanks, Venkat. Sorry.