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Planning Board

Jun 23, 2026 — 7,681 words, 10 speakers identified
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Joshua Subin 0:00 🎥

On a date adjourn to a date certain or the next regularly scheduled there meeting thereafter, then you have to renotice the application as you would as if it was a new application.

Steve Krisky 0:09 🎥

It might be better to do it that way because we don't know when they're gonna have the, you know, proper Adjustment? Yeah. Okay. You saying that if we did nothing, it would just be assumed You don't vote to open Let me ask my question. Are are are we assuming that if we do nothing from what you just said that it could simply come up at the next meeting?

Joshua Subin 0:28 🎥

If you have noticed the public hearing until this board acts to open the public hearing, the public hearing is not open. So you would have to open the public hearing with a vote, and then you'd have to adjourn it to a date certain if you didn't want a renotice. If you don't do that and it's just with the consent of the applicant going on to a future meeting, you would have to notice for that future meeting. Does that make sense?

Rob Luntz 0:54 🎥

Yeah. It makes sense. I don't know what's best for What's the effort involved in renoticing?

Vincent Salanitro 1:00 🎥

I think it's anything crazy effort. It gets done all the time, so I don't think it would be an issue to renotice anything.

Joshua Subin 1:08 🎥

I mean, if we if we say that we wanna open the public hearing and then adjourn it to our next regularly scheduled meeting and That might be the only agenda, and then we're just all gonna reconvene here just to do the same thing. You could put it off two months if then I'm not saying you what to do, but you could put it off two months and then see where you're at at that point too as well. It's an it's an expense, but it is what it save us coming in for just one agenda item. It's minor anyways. Okay.

John Ghegan 1:34 🎥

Alright. So

Rob Luntz 1:36 🎥

the applicant is not here. I don't believe. So we can't have consent of the applicant if that's required.

Joshua Subin 1:45 🎥

I would if they were noticed and they were told that they were being put over to the next hearing, I would put them over to the next hearing if they were told that they were putting over, put off to two meetings from now. Or if you think sixty days, I think that might make sense if the since the applicant is not here.

Rob Luntz 2:01 🎥

Do you know what they were told, Vincent?

Vincent Salanitro 2:02 🎥

Oh, I told them that they were just gonna be adjourned from the hearing. Didn't give them specific date as I wasn't sure when they're gonna give me something that I would wanna present wanna present to you.

Geoffrey Haynes 2:13 🎥

So if we adjourn this application till the next meeting and Or the meeting thereafter. And they're not they're still not prepared, does that require us to come in and

Joshua Subin 2:23 🎥

say, okay. We're still not prepared. Well, right now, you haven't even voted to open the public hearing. Yeah. We're just discussing opening the public hearing. So just to be clear. And so if you open the public hearing and adjourned it to the next meeting, you would have to do it for the next regularly scheduled meeting thereafter. So if you didn't have a quorum or if something came up and it went up to the next meeting thereafter, that is fine. That is what that next regularly scheduled meeting thereafter means. So if you're not meeting, their app the application is not in, the book you will be continued just to the next regularly scheduled meeting thereafter. You understand? You don't have to meet if they're not ready. You do just kick it kick it to the next meeting.

John Ghegan 3:08 🎥

Okay.

Steve Krisky 3:09 🎥

That seems simpler than anything else we just thought. Remoticing and everything. Yeah. Because, I mean, there is a cost to noticing because you gotta put an ad in the gazette. Right.

Vincent Salanitro 3:18 🎥

There's a small cost to that plus the Karen's time and your time. Yeah. I'd rather not expend that resource if we can avoid it. That's all I'm saying. No. It's reasonable, but there's also time and money to reconvene everybody here for you know, it's renoticed. We have to put it into the gazette again. So same same difference. That's just the playing devil's advocate on that one. What

Rob Luntz 3:41 🎥

do you want us to do, Vincent?

Vincent Salanitro 3:42 🎥

I have no opinion. I just don't wanna I just don't want everyone to come here just to do the same thing for one agenda item. It's not ready.

Joshua Subin 3:49 🎥

I would suggest this. I would suggest you put it off to your next regularly scheduled meeting, which will be whatever date it it is scheduled for next month. We can look it up on the calendar. If they're not submitted in time, we just put we we just put it on online. It's going over to the next regularly scheduled meeting thereafter. And then it would be the meet the meeting that that follows. And if you don't have to schedule because they're not in in they're not ready to submit materials to Vincent, it just keeps going.

Steve Krisky 4:20 🎥

July 14 is the next planning board meeting.

Joshua Subin 4:24 🎥

Okay. But to do that, you'd have to open the meeting hearing and then put it off to that date. Okay.

Rob Luntz 4:30 🎥

Steve, you wanna make a motion to open

Steve Krisky 4:32 🎥

the public hearing? Motion to open the public hearing for Springcomb LLC 352 South Riverside Avenue for an amended site plan.

Geoffrey Haynes 4:42 🎥

Second.

Rob Luntz 4:43 🎥

Okay. So then all in favor? Aye. Alright. So then the suggestion was made to adjourn the public hearing because the applicant is not prepared to present until our next regularly scheduled meeting.

Joshua Subin 5:07 🎥

Do the dates certain or the next regularly scheduled meeting thereafter? So do the fourteenth as as as

Rob Luntz 5:13 🎥

was suggested, and then or the next regularly scheduled meeting. Okay. So I'll make that motion.

John Ghegan 5:19 🎥

Second.

Rob Luntz 5:20 🎥

Alright. All in favor of that? Yep. Okay. So we'll leave the public hearing open at this point, and when the applicant has it together, we'll bring them in. Alright. Moving along. The next item on the agenda is Croton Riverside LLC, the Hudson Condos, 25 South Riverside Avenue, site plan for revised electric vehicle charging station locations. Hey, Ralph. Hey. Good evening.

Ralph Rossi 5:52 🎥

Good. How are you? Great. Great. How are you guys doing? Good. Thank you for that. That was that was a education for me. I never knew that about the public hearing and opening up the public hearing, and you learn something every time you come out.

John Ghegan 6:07 🎥

Hopefully, we do too. That's great. So

Ralph Rossi 6:12 🎥

would you like me to go over it's pretty straightforward.

Rob Luntz 6:15 🎥

You want me to go over? Yes. Why don't you tell us what you're here for and go over it? So

Ralph Rossi 6:21 🎥

months ago, probably back in well, we're already in June. It had to be January. We did multiple tours with the fire department to bring them through the building and the volunteers be familiar with the building, our systems that we have there so that they're well well informed. And back on the original site plan approval, we had contemplated two electric vehicle chargers in the garage and two outside. And when I talked to the fire, chief in the fire department, they made a very valid point if, you know, god forbid, there was a fire in the building or a vehicle caught fire in the garage, it probably was not wise to have electric vehicle chargers in the garage, I concurred. So we just made provisions to put all four of them outside in what we call the public court, not the public, but the outdoor parking area, which is both assigned parking and visitor parking outside of the garage, which quite frankly probably winds up being better because if you have

someone that comes and visits you and wants to charge your vehicle, we have more of them located outdoors. So that's what we did. By making that change, Vinny advised we come here and get approval for putting the four of them outdoors instead of two.

Steve Krisky 7:37 🎥

Have a question if you're finished with your Yeah. Presentation, Ralph. You said the conclusion was that it would be safer having them outside rather than in the building. I would assume in the building trade that there are charging stations inside garages. Yeah. Is that is that Sometimes. I mean, it surprises me to hear that it was determined that they would be safer outside than inside. I would think it's really not an issue to have it inside the building. I don't care. I mean, it's fun having them outside. My other question is if you do have them outside, you know, then you trigger you gotta make sure that they're always clear for snow in the winter so that people can access them, particularly visitors as well. Well,

Ralph Rossi 8:24 🎥

so I I own other buildings and we do have indoor and outdoor, but it's funny. The ones that we do have indoors, don't have many of them deep in the garage. They're, like, by right by the entrance. Oh, this because of the location within the garage. Yeah. And it was these were deeper in by the elevators. So where they were located wasn't really ideal. If there was a fire, you'd to go pretty deep into the garage to pull them out. But it was again, obviously, we're gonna continually plow the driveway because we have to. And It

Rob Luntz 8:54 🎥

did come up in previous application for a project where, there was a proposal to have these chargers in in the basement. And I I think, John, you talked about it, and the applicant talked about some ideas of blankets and or extra sprinklers.

Ralph Rossi 9:13 🎥

Yeah. No. I can tell you the last building I did, we had we had them at the entrance, and we actually built a wall. We built a concrete wall specifically to kind of encase the electric charging stations in case there was a fire, and the fire department brought that up too. So, like, I'm very I'm quick to react to the fire department if they're not comfortable with something. You know, we tend to do it pretty quickly because Well, this seems like a no brainer to me. Good solution.

John Ghegan 9:35 🎥

Right.

Geoffrey Haynes 9:37 🎥

I don't know what you guys think. Yeah. No. Just about the utilities then, they have to be relocated

Ralph Rossi 9:41 🎥

to No. No. We already had provisions. So we had two out there to begin with. We just added another two in the same location. So, you know, me being overly conservative, I always run extra conduit whenever run, so we already had the conduit going from the electric room out to the area to accommodate two or four. So we have it already ready to go. So the trench depth doesn't have to change at all? Or No. No. No. They were pretrenched already. So we already had like I said, we already had conduit out there because we already had two vehicle charging stations out there. When we ran those two, I put another spare conduit empty in case we need you know, something broke or we needed to pull another line.

Steve Krisky 10:22 🎥

If in five years, ten years, it was determined that you needed a couple more charging stations, maybe another two or four, do you have preplanned

Ralph Rossi 10:33 🎥

a spot for those outside well? Curious you bring that up because these are condominiums and not rentals. So if you the parking garages or the parking spaces within the garage are assigned to individual unit owners. So you would think, you know, if you have your own vehicle, you really want the charger in the garage at that case or you want a low level one. These are what we call level two chargers. They're pretty high amps or

Steve Krisky 10:56 🎥

About twenty five minutes?

Ralph Rossi 10:57 🎥

No. No. These are, each one is a 100 amps. So depending on the vehicle that you have, I mean, typically, you'll get a full charge within three to four hours. Okay. You know, more or less, but they're pretty they're pretty high amperage. If you had your own private vehicle and you wanted to have a charger for that vehicle, you would put, like, a a one twenty line, like, a low amperage one, and they we have we don't have accommodation, but it could easily be done from their house from the house panel to run electric into the garage, and then we'd have to put a submeter for the individual unit owners because they would have to get billed. Right? It was gonna pay for the electric. It's impractical to pull it from the apartments up above down into the garage. But we do have excess room in the main panel in the garage to put submeters to feed an individual one ten or even a two twenty low amp.

Steve Krisky 11:46 🎥

Not sure I heard an answer to my question. Forgive me. So if you had to add more later or chose to, where would those go? Would they go inside the garage, are you saying? They they could. If they if the unit owners wanted them in the garage, they would have to come. If not, we have

Ralph Rossi 12:01 🎥

outdoors, we'd have to trench against, so we don't have extra. I had one more pair. But if they wanted to put more outdoors, they'd have to cut the asphalt from the electric room and run a line outside.

John Ghegan 12:13 🎥

Okay.

Ralph Rossi 12:14 🎥

Thank you.

Rob Luntz 12:17 🎥

Seems most likely, like you said, if they own

Ralph Rossi 12:21 🎥

a unit and then they own, basically, having a Obviously, yeah. You you're gonna want it. They're gonna wanna park under a signed spot. Yeah. If they can charge there Yeah. Right. That's preferable. Sure. Right. So that's where they would pull off the main panel. They would pull electric from the main panel. They'd have to put a they'd have to contract with someone to put a submeter so that it could be billed for the electric to use. Right.

Seyed Hosseini 12:42 🎥

So these four spots are not, excuse me, assigned to anybody? No. They're they're

Ralph Rossi 12:48 🎥

they're in theory, the electric only, electric chargers. I mean, they could be used by visitors, you know, if you have an overnight guest. They're not public. They're on private property, but they're open to anyone to use. Right. Is it, are they open for public use? Because there is no gate at the entrance. Well, the answer to that question is not yet. No. The board would have to make that decision if they wanted to open up to public use. Yeah. Ultimately, you're gonna have a condo board that's gonna have control over Correct. What happens in the building. Right now, myself and my attorney and my other attorney are the board members, but we wanna turn it over to the owners so they ultimately will have decision whether or not they wanna open up to the public. Could even be periods, you know, periods of the time of the day, like, you know, during the weekday because people aren't if you're going to work, they're open. Right?

I don't anticipate a lot of people back to back. The other thing with that is when you park there and you charge, someone has to monitor and enforce that after your car is fully juiced up. That's what I was just thinking about. Like, how are you're gonna have to have some rules about previous use and what Yeah. I I do that. At our other buildings, we manage it, so we control that. So if someone's we actually can monitor the software. So if you keep your car there and plugged in over a certain amount of time, you could get fined automatically. So it's one way we do it.

Steve Krisky 14:10 🎥

Makes sense. Yeah. Can you build in an alert that when the car is fully charged that they get

Ralph Rossi 14:15 🎥

somehow they get a message from the system that tells them to come down? I I believe they do automatically. Because, like, if you go to Blink, we use Blink. Unfortunately, I don't have electric vehicles, so I don't know. But I think if you're on the Blink network and you have the app on your phone, when you're full, it'll tell you, come get your car.

John Ghegan 14:32 🎥

Okay.

Geoffrey Haynes 14:35 🎥

Anybody else have a question? Well, yeah, just on the Minnesota plan. Any other changes besides the relocation?

Ralph Rossi 14:41 🎥

No. We were here a couple of months ago with the other minor changes in the front that you already approved. This is the final one. So I was just wondering

Geoffrey Haynes 14:50 🎥

tangentially about the the large retaining wall behind the building. What are the maintenance, because it's it's critical to, you know, it's critical piece of infrastructure. What are the maintenance plans for that over the years? How do you make sure it remains structurally sound?

Ralph Rossi 15:07 🎥

That wall has been engineered to high heaven. I mean, in theory, there's no maintenance on that wall for a hundred and fifty years. The only maintenance would be periodic inspections. If you see anything moving cracked or it looks like it's heaving, obviously, you're gonna do something about it, but that was it. There's nothing to do to the wall. There's nothing to touch on the wall. There's nothing to probe on the wall. The wall is tied to a a set of steel beams or piles that are then anchored into the hillside that are designed literally for one hundred and fifty years.

John Ghegan 15:39 🎥

Okay.

Steve Krisky 15:41 🎥

On the same vein of just finishing punch list type items on the building, I know it doesn't have to do with the site plan, but landscaping, I think it's looking nice that you guys, if you look at the original renderings the team submitted, they're pretty close to being what you showed us a long time ago, which is a good thing. My one question is, up top, when you're coming down Van Wyck from behind the building Mhmm. At least going back around three, four weeks ago, noticed that there was still like a, a fence, an ugly metal fence that was up there. I'm assuming there's something that's gonna be completed up there in terms of landscaping to kinda finish the job. Well, actually,

Ralph Rossi 16:22 🎥

the plan is, Vincent, we're I wanna get together with, we mentioned it a couple of months ago, it's one of our final items with DPW. That is a easement for DPW because we have the main sewer that goes around the back, so they have to get access. But we also wanna provide security because we've had we don't want people coming onto the property, you know, freely. So I talked to Phil about it. We're gonna build a fence back there, but we have to lock it, obviously. But it's not gonna be anything elaborate. It's gonna be basically a chain link fence and a gate to provide access to DPW to come down the hill if they have to.

Steve Krisky 16:56 🎥

Chain link fence is a a finished item back there. It's not I don't remember seeing that in the plans, and I wonder if the neighbors would have concerns.

Ralph Rossi 17:06 🎥

That would be on your property, not mine. So I would Sebastian's gonna have to talk to Vinny about because well, we talked about it earlier because we don't have to provide anything up there. We have fence all along the top of the wall to keep people from coming over the wall. But there's an issue with DPW being able to access, sewer lines properly, and it's your property. To get between our property and Van Wyck, you have to go on town property. It's not that property. That fence came up during construction. It was never there before, the fence I'm referring to. As you're coming down Van Wyck, before you hit the hillside and start going down Yeah. You're talking about the chain link fence right there at the end of Van Wyck. Yes. That chain link fence was not there before the construction went by. We can take out, and that fence is on town properties, between our property and town property, to keep people from coming down on to our property. Fair enough. We can remove it, but

I don't know that it's wise to have it removed. If you have kids and a bike or whatever and a horse playing at night and they're going down the hill fast, they can go down, hit the lower fence even though there's a fence there and, god forbid, they go over a tall wall. Someone's gonna get hurt. So I propose Okay. We put a fence there, which, again, we're willing to pay for. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. I mean, I certainly

Steve Krisky 18:20 🎥

I would trust Vincent to come up with a good solution there, but I'd like it to be something that's aesthetically appropriate

Rob Luntz 18:27 🎥

Mhmm. As opposed to just the rundown channeling fence that's there now. Well, maybe the village can provide some planting Some there. Some kind of, you know Yeah. That defensive there is now temporary. It doesn't have to be ugly and Okay. You know? Yeah. We gotta have some discussion with DPW. Makes sense. Village property, so village should DPW and us, we should take care of it. K. I mean, if you if he's willing to put

Ralph Rossi 18:50 🎥

put the fence Yeah. No. In in the past I mean, you see now in the past, the area was all weeded and overgrown. Oh oh, I know. I'm not I'm not suggesting you do anything bad. You see I know. I know it was there before because we all did a a tour beforehand. I know it's there now. So I'm just looking to you know, it's like 100% to me. It's it's the one thing that we don't look at because it's in the back, but Sure. It is an item on my project. Okay. To take care of, so we'll be in discussion with you. Yeah. We talked about it. Thank you, Vincent. Yeah. Yeah. And, Vincent, we could look at it from a safety perspective too from a car coming down and just

Geoffrey Haynes 19:20 🎥

getting lost at night driving I down mean, is it chain link fence, you know, is gonna is that gonna stop them or not? But just look at it from that angle as well. Or an appropriate sign if necessary.

Steve Krisky 19:33 🎥

I need to add more signs, but you're not gonna put up a big brick wall at the bottom, you know. People flip that, of course. It's be it's gotta be an appropriate safety measure. Mhmm. You know, for the vehicle,

Rob Luntz 19:44 🎥

a

Ralph Rossi 19:46 🎥

small Jersey barrier of sort at the end right before the fence planted in front of it with nice bushes would be nice. This way, you know. Not a bad idea. Nothing to be discussed. It looks right. Looks good and

Rob Luntz 19:59 🎥

keeps the car from going over. Trust that you guys will work that out. I mean, we will. We will. So we do have a draft resolution for this site plan, amended site plan whereby condition number five of the original site plan called for four level two electrical charging spots, two of which were located in the basement garage and two located on the interior lot, and now that's revised to show the four electrical charging spots in the outdoor parking lot and zero indoor electrical charging stations and our typical whereas clauses and so it's really just this one item in terms of updating the amended site or updating the site plan to be an amended site plan. So if someone would like to make a motion on the resolution or if there are any comments to the resolution?

Geoffrey Haynes 21:00 🎥

Second the motion.

Rob Luntz 21:01 🎥

Well, why don't you make the motion to approve the resolution?

Seyed Hosseini 21:05 🎥

I make a motion to approve the resolution. Okay.

Rob Luntz 21:08 🎥

And second? John? Okay. All in favor?

Unknown Speaker 21:11 🎥

Aye. Aye.

Rob Luntz 21:12 🎥

Alright. Great. And we still have you at the table, I think, for the next one.

John Ghegan 21:19 🎥

Son?

Ralph Rossi 21:20 🎥

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. Don't go away.

3. Old Business
Rob Luntz 21:24 🎥

So we have another application, sold business application for the Hudson Condos, 25 South Riverside Avenue for signage application signage permit. So is this we already have a sign up there. Right?

Ralph Rossi 21:43 🎥

Yes. Did we jump the gun on the sign? We did. Okay. My brain had it as a directional address sign and not a proper sign, I'll get a store type of sign?

John Ghegan 21:58 🎥

So,

Rob Luntz 21:59 🎥

here it is. I don't I mean, typically, we would have gotten this application ahead of time, I think, and we would have referred it to the VEB.

Ralph Rossi 22:11 🎥

I I met with the VEB.

Rob Luntz 22:13 🎥

Did. Oh, you did meet with the VEB. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. They Did they give us any sort of paperwork or response

John Ghegan 22:20 🎥

on that?

Vincent Salanitro 22:21 🎥

They've they've recommended approval. Okay. I don't have the minutes on me, I don't think, right now, but I did see them. I could attest to that.

Rob Luntz 22:28 🎥

Vincent, do you remember were there any comments beyond just their approval?

Vincent Salanitro 22:32 🎥

As from the minutes that I saw, it looked like that was basically that they'd like to sign

Rob Luntz 22:35 🎥

Great. Recommended approval. Well, that makes our job a little easier.

Steve Krisky 22:41 🎥

Could you tell me how it's lit, please?

Ralph Rossi 22:42 🎥

It's not lit.

Steve Krisky 22:42 🎥

Not lit at all?

Ralph Rossi 22:43 🎥

No.

Steve Krisky 22:44 🎥

Should

Ralph Rossi 22:47 🎥

it be lit at night? Well, the photo is not up there. The canopy has lights on the canopy at night. Oh, okay. So the lights from the canopy that shine down on the walkway illuminate the light. You can see the light. Yes. Yeah. Because it'll it washes. It overhangs. You can see it overhangs a little bit in the front. Yep. It washes the stairs. Well, you see two of them lit up there. Those are the daytime ones, but there are two more further out, yeah, under under the canopy. So at nighttime, it washes the wall a bit so you can see them. We didn't do any direct that's the other reason why I didn't think about a light sign a sign light because it's not lit up Okay. Directly.

Geoffrey Haynes 23:26 🎥

Anybody else have questions about the sign? To looking at the application versus the schematic, application says

John Ghegan 23:35 🎥

says nine inch.

Ralph Rossi 23:38 🎥

Yes.

Geoffrey Haynes 23:40 🎥

And the drawing has eight inch letters with a one inch band.

Ralph Rossi 23:46 🎥

I can tell you, I measured them myself, they're nine inches, so the architect probably has a typo.

Rob Luntz 23:53 🎥

On the on the right, it says something. On this part, it says nine inches. Over here, it says eight inches. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. So that nine inches, I guess, is the overall width band. Okay. So think it might might actually be what he has.

John Ghegan 24:11 🎥

Okay. Fine. Yep. Any

Steve Krisky 24:17 🎥

other thoughts, comments? Just a question. The landscaping that's right in front of it, those small bushes, I'm assuming are

Ralph Rossi 24:24 🎥

slow growing

Steve Krisky 24:26 🎥

Yes. Signs to be low. Trimmed. Yes. Plants. Yes. Okay. Yes.

Vincent Salanitro 24:32 🎥

Do we have a resolution on this, or we just Oh, there was a resolution. Let me pull that up. And by the way, if it the sign does get blocked, we go out and look for that. So we would let him know to trim it or give him a violation if he doesn't. We would be addressing it also. I think it's this one.

John Ghegan 24:53 🎥

That's not that one.

Rob Luntz 24:57 🎥

And we also got this certification of completed work that I think was required as part of the finaling out with the There's a second. Yeah. So that was great.

Vincent Salanitro 25:09 🎥

Not sure a resolution was put or was was changed. It was just kind of following up on item number nine. Any sign of application submitted to the planning board for approval. Referred to the planning board. Might be referred by the planning board to a to advisory board on the VB for the review and comments. The meeting I'm not sure if a resolution really needed to be we can just make a

Rob Luntz 25:30 🎥

vote on the approving this is there is that about the signage? Yeah. Yeah. It's a reference. Okay. Maybe I missed that one. Let's see here. Do we have a resolution to approve the sign?

John Ghegan 25:47 🎥

Do you have one there? I I haven't seen one. This this one. This this is the site plan. That's not that's not the site. That's not the site. I mean, I I think that Yeah. This is It's a site plan or it's a This is to worry about the electrical vehicle charging. Oh, yeah. That's the site plan. Right. Okay. So So let's vote. I think in the absence of a resolution,

Rob Luntz 26:08 🎥

I think we can just vote. I mean, maybe Steve you would make a motion to approve the sign.

Steve Krisky 26:14 🎥

Motion to approve the sign the Hudson 25 South Riverside Avenue.

Rob Luntz 26:20 🎥

As is. Second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Terrific.

Ralph Rossi 26:24 🎥

I think we're done then.

Rob Luntz 26:26 🎥

We got one more. We got the landscape.

Ralph Rossi 26:29 🎥

No. No. I meant we're done with the With the South Riverside.

Rob Luntz 26:32 🎥

Or 25 South Thank

John Ghegan 26:35 🎥

you. Have a good Take care. We're not done done. Almost done. Yes, sir. Okay.

Rob Luntz 26:41 🎥

Thank you. Next item is also a old business item. Carmel Riverside LLC, 425 South Riverside Avenue. Final resolution compliance. So we have a

John Ghegan 26:55 🎥

who do guys right here?

Rob Luntz 26:57 🎥

Some plans with some landscaping.

John Ghegan 26:59 🎥

Good

Andrew Cortese 27:00 🎥

evening. How you doing? Hey. How are you? Andrew Cortese, the applicant with Robert Sherwood, the landscape architect here.

Rob Luntz 27:06 🎥

Welcome. Good evening.

Robert Sherwood 27:08 🎥

So Andrew contacted my office about a month or two ago to do some landscape plan for the, obviously, the two front islands in the the parking lot per his resolution that needed to be done and planted. So we've encouraged on the on the left hand side of this map in the larger kind of the planting plan, there is an existing, I don't know how what they call it, but a a slew of I think they were red pines or maybe scotch pines that were growing kind of awkwardly and crazy. We're weaving all those, and I'm trying to underplant it with a mix of perennials and shrubs that'll give you some flower color. To the smaller planting bed where there is really nothing in there and there's new walkway that was built a few years back, I did propose a couple of fastigiate growing, I believe, maple trees. And what they will do is fastigiate growth is very columnar in shape, so it'll stay away from the power lines. So those trees kinda intended to bring down the scale of the building, set the tone for some things, and, again, kinda continued the same theme

of a mixed kind of perennial bed that will give you some flower and color and texture throughout the year. Nothing that will block sight lines pulling out or anything like that. It is planted all to the back of those two planting beds. This is more of a graphic for you guys to kinda see what plants

Rob Luntz 28:40 🎥

Right. Right. We're planting. Some grasses and some low stuff. And Yep. Yeah. I I Few few look at this, the catmint and whatnot. Yeah. And a few rooms. I thought the viburnum beautiful. I mean, I think this is gonna be a really, really nice upgrade to that the front of the property there. And I thought you did a thoughtful job. I because I looked and, you know, there were those existing trees and and I didn't really see them on here, but it looks like, you know, we have just missing it, but it does incorporate them in terms of your plan where you're just, you know,

Robert Sherwood 29:15 🎥

planting Yeah. They're there. They're I didn't I should have highlighted them to to kinda focus on where they were, but it's kinda some of the plantings are spread out purposely because they're grouped. Those trees were kinda a mismatch.

John Ghegan 29:28 🎥

Right. So I believe that one weeping cherry is helpful. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. See, I believe that one's gone. Is the weeping cherry gone? The other one's completely blank. There because Okay. Yeah. I think it's there. That one's

Robert Sherwood 29:41 🎥

there. That tree's not there. The one that's all the way down. Yeah. One's no longer there. But again, these fastigiate growing trees planted towards that back, try to stay out of those power lines.

Andrew Cortese 29:52 🎥

And they look a lot fuller right now, maybe we can trim them back, maybe a little bit off the power lines a little bit, if need be. Those pines.

Geoffrey Haynes 30:00 🎥

So, Andrew, have there been any, say, landscaping improvements made since we we approved the change of use in in more than a year ago?

Andrew Cortese 30:08 🎥

No. This is the first attempt at it. This is the first attempt, yeah. We just handled some other stuff like signage, striping, parking lot striping, some ballards, and some other stuff on the property. Okay.

Geoffrey Haynes 30:22 🎥

And this presumably is gonna be in place until you come forward with your next

Andrew Cortese 30:29 🎥

Yes. Proposal for the property? Yes. Yep.

Steve Krisky 30:35 🎥

Do you have partners now, or are you the only one that owns it?

Andrew Cortese 30:38 🎥

No. I have another partner.

John Ghegan 30:40 🎥

Always had.

Geoffrey Haynes 30:47 🎥

And question for the engineer. Was there a compliance issue that you had to resolve on this?

Vincent Salanitro 30:52 🎥

Yeah. So this he's following up on one of the conditions of his approval. I think it was the first. This is the second one. That the median trip in front of the property will be updated with some curb appeal including landscaping for the new business. A landscaping plan shall be prepared and submitted to the planning board for approval. So he's coming doing that now. Yeah, we Just so you know, these terms, conditions we put in here, put some thought into them, making sure they're fair before So, they make it in we expect the applicant to make good on it. Absolutely.

Rob Luntz 31:32 🎥

Any other thoughts, guys? Questions? I I I I think you did a nice job on it given, like, it's a kind of awkward little spot there. And it looks like once it comes in, it'll be it'll be nice.

Steve Krisky 31:41 🎥

One quick question following up on that. What kind of timing are you hoping for in terms of planting? Is that something that would happen over the summer? Is that happen in the fall? What's the best time of year to plant this stuff right away? No. We're gonna try to do it in the next probably four weeks. Okay. Try again right away. Is that a good is this a good time here to be planting?

Robert Sherwood 32:02 🎥

It's been into our hot season. But Right. If you can water them or or if he has irrigation, I don't know. But if they can keep them watered, most of this stuff is relatively very hardy, and most of this stuff is readily available. So if it is a condition where you wanna see it done sooner than later,

Steve Krisky 32:20 🎥

we can Yeah. I mean, that's I'm just concerned about, as you were alluding to, if this gets planted in four weeks Yeah. Is there a watering plan? Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a do you have an access to a you know? We do. We do. Better time. Ability. That's a great point. So I I would say probably in, you know, the middle of September probably would be a better time. Right? I would think. But what do you guys think about Yeah. I mean issue and I mean but let's go back. So you have means to water them. Yes. We do. I'd rather see them go in than That's what I'm thinking. If you have the means to water, of course, I'm I think if you just if it's constantly watered up, it'll be fine. And on the bigger trees, they have these bags where you can put water in bags as well. Yeah. Tree gators. Yep. Tree gators. So I I yeah. I would be much more in favor of let's get it done. I don't wanna prolong it any longer. Right? Can we add that as a condition?

Rob Luntz 33:08 🎥

Sure.

Steve Krisky 33:10 🎥

Some kind of watering plan?

John Ghegan 33:12 🎥

I think that would be a great That's why you're laughing. Don't let anything. I'm

Joshua Subin 33:17 🎥

not suggesting you should do this, but typically when you have landscaping of this of a nature, you're not suggesting we should require a bond or anything like that. You wanna see survivability in terms of replanting.

Vincent Salanitro 33:27 🎥

I was thinking something of a bond also, kinda like that's I feel like we usually take a bond. I think we took a bond for 25 South Riverside. I can't say that for certain, but I have a feeling he has a two year bond for his plantings. Maybe do something similar as well. I think that that's kind of what we usually do for trees as well. We take bonds to make sure that they're If that's village's standard practice, I mean, there has to be either guarantee of watering or warranty on the plantings or something along those lines. I don't know the specifics, but, I mean, maybe if you wanna put a condition, like, to be, like to be bonded as per usual village standards.

Joshua Subin 34:03 🎥

I can make sure that that's done. Yeah. I mean, I I I've seen in other places, and I I and we should have talked about this a little before, but, typically, you'd say a bond to the satisfaction of the village attorney and to the building department.

Steve Krisky 34:17 🎥

I think that's a That's fair. Fine by us. I think that's fair.

John Ghegan 34:22 🎥

With that? Yeah. I'm fine. Okay.

Rob Luntz 34:24 🎥

Alright. So, Jeff, you wanna try to cobble together something for me?

Geoffrey Haynes 34:37 🎥

This is a parking plan. Guess we're just approving I'm

John Ghegan 34:42 🎥

sorry. Go ahead. I was gonna say parking for the dance

Speaker 10 34:46 🎥

and the glass company. Yes. The glass company has signs up only parking for them. Yes. The dance company. The glass company has three handicap spots in front of the store. Yes.

Andrew Cortese 35:01 🎥

Are there other spots for him to park? Or Oh, yeah. They are. Has spots? They're on the, the north end of the property. There's, like, seven spots right on the north end of the property. Those are his spots. Is that, I mean, identified as his spots? Yes. Is it on the site plan as well. If you say yes to Yeah. Yeah. It's it's on his site plan and his lease. You know, the site like in this area? The whole edge? Yes. So on the left side in front of that Jeep,

Speaker 10 35:29 🎥

there's seven spots that we put a a little retaining wall there. I might suggest you put a put signs up there to his property because, once things got get busy in the town, people will be parking in and taking a train.

Rob Luntz 35:43 🎥

Yeah. Okay. That's good point. That's actually where the dumpster used to be. Or not the dumpster, the clothing collection Yeah.

Geoffrey Haynes 35:49 🎥

Which we So we got removed. I don't think we need a resolution. I think we just Well, got we over here, right? We got to Is this There's a resolution with it. So we could say we're approving the landscaping plan Right. That is in association with the change of use permit for Mirage Mirror and Glass Right. Submitted by Carmel Riverside LLC for 425 South Riverside Avenue with the conditions that include a bond to the satisfaction of the village attorney and village engineer.

Rob Luntz 36:30 🎥

For the landscaping

Geoffrey Haynes 36:32 🎥

installation. For the landscaping installation.

Rob Luntz 36:37 🎥

I agree. Okay. It's done. Second's perfect. Alright. All in favor? Alright. One one question from the applicant.

Andrew Cortese 36:43 🎥

That's a two year bond. So in two years, if they're growing, he he can try to get his money back.

Joshua Subin 36:47 🎥

It is. I'll I'll check into that.

Andrew Cortese 36:49 🎥

Just making sure. Yeah. I believe it is. That it's standard. Mhmm. Okay. Perfect. Alright. Clear. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening.

Rob Luntz 37:00 🎥

Alright. The other item we have on the agenda here is approval of the minutes from 05:26 Can

Steve Krisky 37:11 🎥

I chime in one really quick thing? I just wanna hand these out. We don't have to discuss them, but I sent you all said, I'm not sure if it reached you, but the I'm the liaison to the CAC and there's a dark skies plan being developed by the village. So I just wanted to hand out the memo that Josh, not Josh, do I have the name right? Did you get one? It doesn't really matter who wrote it here. I want for the attorney as well.

Rob Luntz 37:39 🎥

I got it. I got my email from it. I remember when I read it. So But I'll take one if you have next year.

Steve Krisky 37:45 🎥

Had asked you guys to Thank you. If you had input to respond to me, you know, within about a week, but since today's Tuesday, let's push that back to, like, the weekend. And you may not have any comments, and that's fine too. I'll let Eva know who's, you know, running the ship on that. You know, Vincent's got a copy as well. And that's all. I just wanted to make sure you all saw it and acknowledged it and because it's coming down the pike a little bit. Great. Thank you. Sure.

Rob Luntz 38:16 🎥

So we had sparse attendance at this meeting, only three of us were present.

Joshua Subin 38:24 🎥

If you reviewed the minutes and you are sure they're accurate and you watch the video and do that, you can still vote. It's up to you.

John Ghegan 38:31 🎥

Okay.

Geoffrey Haynes 38:36 🎥

Just a couple of things on page two. One, two, three, fourth paragraph. Beginning with the applicants proposing

John Ghegan 38:52 🎥

This was all the thing has to say

Geoffrey Haynes 38:54 🎥

The applicants don't plan to to take down any trees. So the next sentence has to do with egress, and I'm suggesting that that sentence read regarding egress options are being discussed. There is a proposed egress window that would open and lead to a level surface and then say, and a proposed retaining wall that would facilitate egress. It says not and. It says or.

John Ghegan 39:29 🎥

I know. I'm I'm suggesting we change that change the word to and. Okay.

Geoffrey Haynes 39:34 🎥

That's also Because both are in the plans. That that that wall is in the

John Ghegan 39:38 🎥

I think that makes it clear.

Vincent Salanitro 39:40 🎥

It was a retaining wall for what? What was the exact language? This okay.

Geoffrey Haynes 39:45 🎥

I just wanted just in case it doesn't Yeah. Yeah. No. The language would be that there's a proposed egress window that would open and lead to a level surface and a proposed retaining wall that would facilitate egress.

John Ghegan 40:05 🎥

Sounds good. Thank goodness to you.

Geoffrey Haynes 40:08 🎥

Yeah. So it's just a suggested changes to clarify. Yes. This is better language on last meeting. Thank you. I have three small things.

Steve Krisky 40:17 🎥

First paragraph, page two, the last sentence says, the very end of it says, which falls within this the size guidelines. It should say, which falls within the ADU code size guidelines. And Vincent, I'm gonna give you these written Okay. Just to make your life easy. Paragraph, page two. It was noted that the village's water control commission reviewed the wetland activity permit and recommended that the application, it should say be approved. It's just grammar is all. So, to say. Recommended the application was approved. So, changing the word be for was. And third paragraph, second line, Steve Cristian mentioned the lighting at a commercial building across the street from this home that has it shouldn't say bright lights. The real concern is robust light bleed. And I'm gonna put some I guess it's all I have. Okay.

Vincent Salanitro 41:18 🎥

Thank you, Vincent. You got it.

John Ghegan 41:20 🎥

Sean? Did you hear anything? No. I

Rob Luntz 41:23 🎥

he picked what I said to be. Oh, yeah. And So Ed, sorry. This one? No. I wasn't. I wasn't either. So so do you wanna make a motion on the minutes? I can place the motion that the minutes be accepted as read.

John Ghegan 41:43 🎥

The elections have been moved out. Okay.

Steve Krisky 41:46 🎥

Second.

John Ghegan 41:47 🎥

Alright.

Rob Luntz 41:47 🎥

In favor?

Unknown Speaker 41:49 🎥

Aye.

Rob Luntz 41:50 🎥

Alright. I'm gonna abstain from this. Alright. from this. Alright.

Geoffrey Haynes 41:57 🎥

So just one non agenda item, and I know we don't do enforcement.

Joshua Subin 42:04 🎥

And this is revolve and if it involves an applicate applicant or an application, they're not noticed, so careful. Yeah. It's not an applicant.

Geoffrey Haynes 42:12 🎥

But Steve made reference to the the clothing bin that was previously on that property. I'm not sure what our local laws are regarding the placement of clothing bins around town,

Vincent Salanitro 42:25 🎥

if they're permitted or or what, but I did notice one right by Matters Coffee. Is that the Oh, really? Center? Yeah. We're on it. There's a new one. We're on it. Where

Steve Krisky 42:33 🎥

where exactly did

John Ghegan 42:35 🎥

Like, right opposite? As you I didn't know, like, the fire lane.

Vincent Salanitro 42:38 🎥

As you In the fire? It's, like, kinda near, like, the fire lane. Yeah. Yeah. We're on a he's in medical. Bear with me. Okay. I'm I'm sorry. What'd you say, Vincent? It's, like, near a fire Lane. I don't know exactly where it is. But the the truck's back in there sometimes. Yeah. The three coworkers is working on that one. Coming from the general department. We know about that. Magically appear. They'll site plan approval for it. Oh, they can't do that. Right? So

John Ghegan 43:01 🎥

you're looking to have removed

Joshua Subin 43:03 🎥

or relocated at the very least? Yes. Okay. That's correct. I think this is off minute stuff. I think you mentioned that. Yeah. Alright.

John Ghegan 43:11 🎥

Motion to adjourn.

Geoffrey Haynes 43:14 🎥

Second.

Joshua Subin 43:15 🎥

Listen in. It's not part of the public hearing record if you guys talk after about non blamanting stuff. You could still talk about enforcement stuff with many whenever you want.

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