Whereupon the aforesaid Jor: Aersen answered, No -- I did not hear Livingston say so ; but he said this -- that in the declaration which the Late King James issued against the Hollanders be had read that the Prince was declared to be the Head of the Rebels -- Whereupon Meyndert Wemp again said in the presence of the aforesaid Company -- Remember this well ; for Joris Aersen shall yet make these words good ; and said, further, that he will note down in his book the words which Joris aforesaid has there stated. And further he saith not. Thus in Alby this l^t April 1690

Simon Schermerhoren of the County of Albany aged about 32 years being sworn in presence of M'" Johannis Wendel Justus of the Peace declares, that he was last harvest in his house at Schanegtady where Joris Aersen came and related to him Deponent how Rob* Livingston had' told him that the Declaration issued against the Hollanders by the late King James denounced the Prince of Orange as the head of the Rebels; and that he Joris had shewn this declaration to Dom : Tassemaker at the time minister of Schanhegtady, to learn if there were any such thing in it, but Dom: Tassemaker could see nothing of the sort there ; and as the Deponent afterwards heard that Joris tried to alter the aforesaid Livingston's words, he asked Joris if he now denied that he had spoken to Deponent against Livingston? Whereupon Joris answered, I deny nothing of what I told you herein, for I stated the same to the Domine and the whole consistory of Schanegtady, and I shall not deny it even should I die the death, for Akes Corn^ & his wife were likewise present when Livingston spoke so of our Prince, notwithstanding that Akes now says he is sick, and his wife says she is only a woman.